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Chrysler's 300C webpage by soozpk
Oct 21, 2003 (4:52 am)
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They're finally making progress on the 300C's webpage. Everyday I stop there for
a "look-see", eagerly awaiting any information on it. The link is:
 
http://www.chrysler.com/300series/index.html?context=homepage&amp- ;type=promo2
 
I do hope, (maybe pray also), that Chrysler does a better advertizing blitz on the
the 300C, that they failed to do on the Pacifica.
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b4z...I don't think any 300M owner by intrepidspirit
Oct 21, 2003 (10:25 am)
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would claim that the 300M has "class leading performance in any category". What it offered was a combination of style, size, luxury, performance and value that was not available in any other vehicle at the time. With the exception of possibly styling and value, the rest of the configuration was not class leading.
 
With the weight and boxy styling of the 300C, it will not "offer advantages over the 300M in EVERY category." - especially with a base 2.7 litre engine. In fact, it doesn't even appeal to a 300M owner.
 
BTW, my "vehicle that has an incredibly inefficient automatic transmission that saps hp." achieves extraordinary high end (50 to 80 mph) acceleration times and yields 26.5 MPG 75-80 mph on 200 mile highway runs.
 
Is it a perfect car? - no. Has it been improved since the first year? - no, at least not performance wise. But with the 2.7 and 3.5 litre engines and its 4000 lbs. of bulk, the 300C is a step backward. And the hemi option will just make it a faster boat.
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I do not see Chrysler's ad buget increasing by 300michael
Oct 21, 2003 (7:05 pm)
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If anything with the belt tightening it may actually be less.
As for handling the M held it't own against BMW's and Corvette's. in thing like emerg lane change and slomn. It is the strip that it hurt. If Chrysler is going to try to go upscale they should drop the 2.7 and 3.5L engines and only have the 4.7 and the 5.7 in it. Or it will be nothing more then a larger Cirrus. It will hurt handling (heavy front end) but should help it in other areas. I wish MB would use thier latest crop of trannys in the 300, insted of the ones they are giving to Chrysler.
Watch out for some of those M's on the road they will be packing as much hp as the Hemi only in a 3.5L package.
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Whiners! by 300h
Oct 22, 2003 (8:53 am)
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I'm sick of reading the messages from the cry babies on how DC is changing their beloved 300m. You are the same people that whined while the 300m was in development, complained about how it looked and cursed the use of the "300" name. I'm just hoping the door seals work the trunk mat fits unlike your beloved 300m... Go DC!
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300h.... by intrepidspirit
Oct 22, 2003 (9:58 am)
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"I'm sick of reading the messages from the cry babies on how DC is changing their beloved 300m."
 
Nobody here is "crying" about DC changing their "beloved" 300M.
 
There is no change. DC is abandoning it - period! It's a different car!.
 
I (and other 300M owners) have merely expressed our opinions on the new 300C. I thought that was the purpose of this forum. If DC hadn't called it a 300, I wouldn't have even bothered with comparisons with the 300M. Because they chose to call it a 300, it invites comparisons.
 
If you are sick of reading the opinions (and perhaps vehicle comparisons) of current 300M owners, maybe you should skip our comments. It's a free world!
 
BTW,
 
"You are the same people that whined while the 300m was in development, complained about how it looked and cursed the use of the "300" name."
 
What forum did you see this in?
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by ottowrkr
Oct 23, 2003 (7:50 am)
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300michael said "Watch out for some of those M's on the road they will be packing as much hp as the Hemi only in a 3.5L package"
 
 Come on Mike , the day you crank out 350 H.P in a 3.5 without NOS , Turbo's or Supercharger you let me know. That V6 will never match the 5.7.
Just wait till the 6.1 L goes into the 300.
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Otto by 300michael
Oct 23, 2003 (1:20 pm)
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Some of us (300M owners) are getting ready do start doing just that. We have been in talks with two speed shops that said it can be done (no NOS or Super/Turbo involved. Pistons, cams, and some porting and polishing alonge with new headers, and some other things. Level 10 has a kit to take care of the transmission, that will rid us of that 33% loss down to an acceptible 18-20 percent. The additions should work good with the PP gears and put them to even better use. The baseline testing should start very soon and have parts ready by Feb/Mar.
A few years back I would agree, The M's 3.5 was the highest output engine. Now look It is near the bottom of the pack Nissan's 3.5L was less then 240hp now the same engine is putting out over 280hp stock. SoCal got there 3.5 over 300 horses easy the split shafts are what caused them to stop, because they couldn't handle the power.
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by ottowrkr
Oct 23, 2003 (3:10 pm)
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Yeah I guess if you were to tear the motor apart and rebuild it with some custom parts you could make some pretty good power . well let me know how it works out for you guys. But I still think the C with its RWD V8 engine should do a number to the M . Dont get me wrong I really love the M but I really REALLY like the C .
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? by b4z
Oct 23, 2003 (5:18 pm)
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The money spent on hopping a FWD 300M might be better spent buying a Hemi powered 300C.
Certainly more cost effective.
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300C by dukeofdallas
Oct 23, 2003 (7:07 pm)
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300micheal - I doubt that the 300C w/ 3.5 will be slower than the a stock M. An improved drivetrain will likely make up for a little extra weight although I wish they would tweak the engine a little. "...a larger Cirrus," - If somebody orders their C w/ a 2.7L, cloth interior and only the bare essentials, then apparently they were looking for a larger Cirrus.
 
intrepidspirit - The C appeals to this 300M owner.
 
Had a chance to see it in person recently at the State Fair of Texas. It's definitely love-hate styling. Things that really stood out were the short overhang in the back and the grill. It will grow on folks similar to the CTS or FX or Maxima.
 
Size, power, & stand out in the crowd (in a good way) styling. Sign me up.

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