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Chevrolet Cobalt, Coupe, Sedan
#953 of 2240 Re: Chevrolet Cobalt test [micweb]
Mar 25, 2005 (4:17 am)
Thanks for replying.
I already checked the Car and Driver review, and the report was good. I'm surprised edmunds.com hasn't done a first/drive full test on the Cobalt sedan. It's March of 2005 already. Here they are doing tests on 2006 models, Infiniti M45/M35 Lexus G2300/400 Honda Ridgeline, Mitsubishi Evolution, BMW 3 series. Did they forget about the poor Cobalt? Of the cars I mentioned, the Cobalt is the mos boring, yet it will appeal to most Americans who needs inexpensive transportation. I hope Chevrolet brings out an SS version of the sedan to compete with the Mazda 3. The Cobalt is such a huge improvement over the aging Cavalier,they should have released it a long time ago. Watch out Corolla, Civic, and Focus! Chevrolet is back!!!
#954 of 2240 They love to review$3ok+
Mar 25, 2005 (10:05 am)
They just love to review fully loaded $30K + cars instead of the "poorer of working class" models. A car magazine which tested both the base and optional engine cars would be refreshing. Edmund's and MSN Auto do some testing of more lowly models, which is a good thing. Pick up a typical mag. and you will see a review of the 911 vs. Corvette. While I like both cars, I would have to buy one quite a few years old. I take it only the rich and the wannabees buy car mags these days? I like the Consumer Reports to see what the owners rated the cars. Not sure about Consumers reviews as they sometimes hit the mark, while other times they seem biased. I recall back in around 1976 a review on the Olds Cutlass, and they did not like the tire pressure. I am serious. When you test a car don't you use the exact pressure as recommended, and thus would fill it up yourself. They had a thing about slamming GM. Maybe they are over that now. Fact is the time to slam GM occurred later around that time, but not over tire pressure. That was the beginning of the end. If they test the Mazda3 against the Cobalt I assume Mazda will win overall, and particularly in Zoom-Zoom ability. Looks better inside too. Personally, the Mazda3 judging from the forum here, does have some first and second year bugs, so maybe a third year car, as in '06 would be a best choice. I don't know if I like the electric assist steering. Some are reporting a noise being generated in the steering system. I can do without electric steering and electronic throttle (which hopefully is not on any of these two cars) a cable is fine and works for me. The Cobalt is a pretty good evolution of the Chevy small car and perhaps less cavalier in overall build. Now a revolution car could have been a new Nova III with rear wheel drive. That would be a statement that Chevy has a Honda and Toyota killer on the loose. Could have a sweet straight six with say 200HP selling for under $20k and a i4 just like the one they are using now, and selling for $16K but in a rear wheel drive car with fresh new and perhaps a little retro styling of a Nova III. Hey, maybe even have a V8 and compete with the Mustang. Now there is a car that is selling. The Chrysler 300 and Magnum are selling. See a trend there, as in RWD? Heck a mid-engine Corvair would be cool. A Corvair Monza coupe for 2006 - cool ! Drive that baby to Ralph Nadar for President rallies -- woo-hoo!!! If they pull off the Solstice and can make money on it, or even break even, maybe that is the boost GM needs. I do not see too many G6 on the road, and I am not sure about the sales of Cobalt. They sorta meld with all the rest, so it is hard to pick them out going down the freeway. Maybe they are selling. Certainly better than the Monte Carlo and Malibu. Poor Malibu got it's name stolen and put on an econo FWD car. A crime has been committed. This is my opinion - I realize others see it all differently, which is fine too. Remember what Lee said, " Lead, follow, or get out of the way." Hummm? The PT first followed by the Chevy version coming out soon.... looks like GM listened. I think its called the HHR or something. Anyway, it is late to the table, IMHO.
#955 of 2240 Cobalt has electric power steering
Mar 27, 2005 (8:38 pm)
I'm sort of tired also of the car mags just testing the high-performance cars. At least Car & Driver and especially Consumer Reports test more plebeian vehicles.
What's your beef about CR complaining 29 years ago about a car's tire pressure? They used to list sample defects, and my guess is the car was delivered with severely under- or overinflated tires. In the 70s, CR generally preferred GM cars over Fords or Chryslers. Some Chrysler products of the era used to rack up 40 or so defects per vehicle.
When CR stopped reporting on sample defects a few years ago, the rate was down to 0 to 2 per vehicle.
#956 of 2240 Re: Quick Delivery [prdm]
Mar 27, 2005 (10:26 pm)
Which dealer? I'm in Plainfield.
#957 of 2240 First Impressions
Mar 28, 2005 (4:55 am)
Have had the car (LS sedan) for a day now and 115 miles. It is very nice, Fit and finish are good, everything is tight, dealer prep was fine (for lostwrench-Fairfield). We ordered the car from the factory on March 2nd and it was delivered on the 22nd - very fast. One interesting quirk and one annoying miss. They've programmed the engine to drop RPM's very slowly when clutch is pushed in; takes some geting used to. A wind whistle from the driver's window area manifesting at about 30 MPH but doesn't get louder with more speed. I suppose that's why we have the sub-woofer option.
#958 of 2240 Re: Cobalt has electric power steering [210delray]
Mar 28, 2005 (9:58 am)
Wow, electric steering assist. Does it sing to you? I hear that some do in Mazda3 cars. I could do without that. Next thing you know, they will make the throttle by wire too. You can get some weird problems with those. I wonder if Consumer Reports has found out that air can be added to tires, and a tire gauge is available for $3 so people can, or should I say, should check and adjust if needed air in tires every couple weeks to every month depending on use and climate. When you pick up your new car from the dealership, or the local fast lube, I could assure you that 9 out of 10 times the air level is off in one or more tires. When doing track testing, they should be spot on at the time of testing. I like CR for the customer surveys, and will read some of their car reports, which I must say do find some problem areas in cars, and enlighten one on what they find as possible good points.They did find some issues in the Dodge Stealth which were right on the mark. I owned one, and had those problems, or annoyances. So, if you read say three different reviews, do a road test or two yourself, you may have the best shot at sorting it all out.
Mar 29, 2005 (2:25 pm)
I currently own a 2004 Cavalier LS, with 6,000 miles, which I really like and plan to keep for a while.
While the Cavalier was at the dealership for routine maintenance, I took a look at the new Cobalts, and they really are lightyears ahead of the Cavalier. If I enjoy the Cavalier, I know I would enjoy the Cobalt. Interior is worlds improved! My dealership had a good amount, but only sedans.
#960 of 2240 Re: Cobalt is Really Nice! [dontshopthewal]
Mar 30, 2005 (7:39 pm)
Automatic coupes are pretty easy to find around here now, except none of them come with side-impact airbags. I think with the results of the recent tests they'll start shipping them to the lot equipped with them.
If I was to order the Coupe w/side air right now they said it would take over a month to get it.
#961 of 2240 With my own two eyes
Mar 31, 2005 (7:39 am)
I'm finally starting to see some sedans on the road. They look OK but have too much overhang in the front. Make it look a little weird and imbalanced. The front wheels should have been pushed a couple of inches forward.
#962 of 2240 Cobalt SS Double Charged
Mar 31, 2005 (7:08 pm)
Edmunds listed an article that showed an aftermarket parts producer is starting to offer a hood with scoop and ground effects kits for now with more equipment later. This does bode well for the cobalt if already they are going to offer kits to upgrade your cobalt. I would love to see more enigne/exhaust/suspension/tire kits.