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Opel by vcjumper
Nov 08, 2003 (4:11 pm)
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Its long been known the Astra will share its chasis with the Cobalt as it does the Ion (just like the Opel Vectra and 04 Chevy Malibu share the epsilon chasis). However don't expect the Cobalt interior to appear as upmarket as the Astra's.
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by regfootball
Nov 09, 2003 (11:32 am)
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Chevy will find some way to hose down the look with its own trademark looks.
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reg, by jchan2
Nov 10, 2003 (4:40 pm)
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are you saying that Chevy will take the Vectra-malibu route and dumb-down the interior for us Americans??!!
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by theo2709
Nov 10, 2003 (8:31 pm)
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The Astra is much more expensive than the Cobalt will be. No way can the Cobalt have such a nice interior, but it will be much nicer than the Cavalier (how can it not be).
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jchan by regfootball
Nov 10, 2003 (8:46 pm)
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you know it!
 
exterior too. gotta have job security in NA.
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They will not if 180k people a year by logic1
Nov 11, 2003 (6:07 am)
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promise to pay the mid-size like sticker the Europeans pay for the Astra. Reg, you will be first in line to pay 22k for a mid market compact, right?
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by theo2709
Nov 11, 2003 (7:38 am)
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Yeah 22k BASE. No thanks.
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by regfootball
Nov 11, 2003 (2:12 pm)
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not sure where you get 22k from LOGIC. The Focus in Europe is priced higher than US but here its price is in line with all other compacts while maintaining an overall superior rating to ANY GM compact.
 
let me put it to you this way. I'd gladly spend 19 grand on a loaded Mazda3 or Focus SVT than a Malibu. Plus that 22k will more than get me a new Saab 9-3 right now with year end discounts.
 
And hey last I checked there are plenty of Sunfires and Cavalier with MSRP's right below 20 grand....WHAT A JOKE.
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Have you seen a European Focus? by logic1
Nov 11, 2003 (3:52 pm)
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It has a much higher level interior than the US Focus.
 
We are talking future cars here. We shall see how the next Astra and the Cobalt stand up to the Focus.
 
And you argue my point when you say you would look for a 9-3 at 22k. The Euro priced Astra is close to what we pay for the 9-3 here. It has to be a fancier car inside and out than a US sedan.
 
But look at the specs for the Cobalt's engine. Let's see how well Ford meets the challenge:
 
http://www.saturnfans.com/Cars/Future/2.4lecotecfuture.shtml
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all I can say is this by regfootball
Nov 11, 2003 (5:26 pm)
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its about time GM built a decent four cylinder engine. That would be the 2004 or 2005 model year where this has now occured. The Focus SVT already has a 170hp four cylinder (out of 2.0 litres). I think the Focus had vvt long before any GM four cylinder. And hey, hasn't Honda had it for like 10 years now, so its certainly not anything new. in fact, its about time they (GM) had it. Doesn't Cadillac just NOW get it? Using GM fans mentality of slapping a blower on the motor I can get a Jackson racing supercharger to boost that to the level of the Focus RS Turbo. That's like 230hp.
 
You are certainly quick to point out the glorious tech features of this Ecotec 4 cylinder engine (which are quite good, I like it) but just as quick to deny their worth on v6 engines in other discussions. Which do you favor? Seriously.....which side of the wall are you on? You obviously endorse the benefits of all this 'high feature' 'technology' at least in this forum. But in another forum, you do not express the same view. You do not find value for this techonolgy in a car like Malibu in a v6 engine. Just want to know what your position here is, not the position as spokesman for the GM marketing department. Shed your company jacket for a minute and tell us what YOU prefer.
 
And in the end it don't mean anything because the SRT-4 still has it all over both cars.
 
And if the Cobalt is actually anything close to this new Astra then i will be as pleased as anybody. Tell Chevy to give me a reason to eat crow. I'll be the first to admit it. But I haven't had to in about 20-25 years.

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