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Chevrolet Cobalt, Coupe, Sedan
#1735 of 2240 In Reply to Vince
Jun 19, 2006 (9:33 am)
Vince Burlapp, on his excellent enthusiast's blog site, knocked the Cobalt for being an "also ran" while praising the Accent for being better put together and quieter. I responded thusly:
I've owned about 15 economy cars over the past 6 years - several Focus ZX3's, a couple of Neons, a Cavalier, a Honda coupe, a Scion xA, so I think I'm qualified to defend the Cobalt.
I have a 2006 Cobalt Coupe, stick shift, LS. I paid less than 10 grand for it (repriced by GM to 12,990 with no options - but that does include aircon and a great radio) after a $1,000 dealer discount, application of a $1,000 "floating rebate" coupon the dealer had from GM, and a $1,000 GM Card discount. You can't beat the price. I know I've tried, but the only ZX3 I got for that price didn't have aircon.
For that really bargain price, I got a trip computer (mpg, miles to empty, outside temperature, oil life remaining); automatic headlamps, and an RDS (radio data system) CD player.
On a trip to Yosemite from San Franciso this weekend, I got 36.6 mpg average (my actual calcuation, not the computer)with the aircon running all day. In my workweek commute, I regularlly get 35 mpg or better.
This from the largest, strongest, and fastest (except Mazda3) engine in an economy car.
I also get a 5 year, 60,000 mile power train warranty. Tuneups are virtually non-existent. It's PZEV (super clean, with 150,000 mile warranty on all emission parts).
Wow. How far we've come that we can ignore all this and worry about some nitpicks. Yes, the steering can't hold a candle to the Focus, but the ride is pretty good, and the car grips the road very well (especially considering that Chevy doesn't have a Cobalt that exactly compares to the ZXE in the Focus line). Yes, I have also noted a couple of quality control issues (a intermittent scratching noise from the dashboard, some gurgling a couple of times from the heater hoses) that I didn't have with my Focii (except the 2000 ZX3) or Neons, but to be honest the Scion xA and Honda 2003 coupe had the same number of problems (it surprised me that the ZX3s, VWs, and Neons had fewere initial quality control issues than the Toyota and Honda!), but I can get them fixed.
On the other hand, if you say the Accent is REALLY quiet, that makes me want to try one. BUT in Europe, the Accent is a whole size class below the Focus/Cobalt/VW Golfs, and that has to count for something too.
#1737 of 2240 Re: Making a car last [m1miata]
Aug 14, 2006 (8:22 am)
The last word from a Hyundai owner, and by the numbers, on Hyundai/KIA new car warranties:
1>Hyundai cars sold in the U.S. come with TWO warranties (actually three if you count the body rust-through provisions). The "basic" warranty covers EVERYTHING (except the audio systems* and "normal consumables" such as tires, brake pads, spark plugs, etc.) for 5 yrs/60,000 miles. This "basic" warranty's remaining life fully transfers to subsequent owners. 2>At the end of the fifth year or 60,000 miles of ownership, the "powertrain" extended warranty kicks in to provide long term protection for the remaining 5 yrs/40,000 miles (in other words out to an overall 10 yrs/100,000 miles from date of purchase). The powertrain extended warranty covers mechanical damage to the engine, transmission, front drive axles, CVJs, seals, and front wheel bearings except if such failure is sustained through accident or abuse. (Hear that, "tuners"?) The "powertrain" extended warranty is not transferable to subsequent owners except to immediate family members in the same household (wife, child, step-child, or legally adopted child). A child enrolled full time in college and living on campus during the normal school year is considered a member of the immediate family living "at home" if unmarried.
*The audio system warranty in Hyundais extends only to 3 yrs/36,000 miles from original date of purchase and registration. (Trust me - for good reason...)
Aug 14, 2006 (9:31 am)
SS coupe a few days back. It looked pretty good, and had a surprising amount of trunk space and leg room. my problem was with head room. I am 5'11" and my head kept scraping the headliner (if thats what its called). I was suprised that although the seats had lumbar support, they could not move up or down. I was shocked.
Headroom is the easiest thing to fix, just lift up the top by a few inches. Its absolutley rediculous, and i think GM will loose valuable sales due to this constraint.
I hope GM finds the 50 cents nessesary to redo the headroom in this thing, b/c its a very cool vehicle otherwise.
The interior was very nice and materials A OK.
#1739 of 2240 Re: I sat in a Cobalt [exalteddragon1]
Aug 15, 2006 (4:48 am)
A lot of small cars are like this when you get the sunroof. I have even had issues with full-sized cars head room in the back seat when the car was equipt with the sunroof. If you raised the roof on these cars they wouldn't look as good. I would personally stay away from sunroofs.
#1740 of 2240 Re: I sat in a Cobalt [poncho167]
Aug 15, 2006 (8:50 am)
Yeah, but if you don't tick off the "sunroof" option on the order form, imagine all the squeaks, rattles, and leaks you'll miss out on as the miles pile. I, too, value adequate headroom over the excitement of growing one or more melanomas. (I had a sunroof on a '75 Mercedes 300D which I dutifully opened and closed yearly just to verify the stupid thing still worked.)
Aug 15, 2006 (11:37 am)
won't ruin the design of the car, raise the door height a little if you have to, the line isn't flish with the hood anywhay...
if you raise the roof just 2 inches, along with the top door trim bu say 1 inch, NO ONE WILL NOTICE A THING, except that taller people can fit in the car.
I'm telling you the inside of that SS S/C looked soo cool, the dash the speedo, everything, it also seemed to have lots of room where stuff was far away from me, so i felt pretty good, but the headroom SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe they (GM) would let this slip, WHY!?
#1742 of 2240 Re: I sat in a Cobalt [exalteddragon1]
Aug 17, 2006 (9:24 pm)
I'm 6'3 and have no problem with the headroom. I simply tilt the seat back so I can get into the "Indy Racer Position". If I put the seat all the way up vertically, yeah, I would also not have the headroom needed. But reclining is just fine with me. Love my balt after 10k miles, no regrets at all.
#1743 of 2240 Well, I really like my Cobalt
Aug 20, 2006 (11:00 am)
As I get older and gas prices go up I asked myself what did I want in a car. We bought my wife a new (in '03) Cavalier for $10K with air, auto,and a radio. In the three years she has been driving it, the only problem she has ever had was a burnt out tail light. Our son had a '92 with no problems until he was hit by a pickup. He came out of the accident fine but the car was totalled. I wanted a new car, but didn't want to spend a lot of money. I was driving an 04 Toyota Camry with close to 60,000 miles on it. It had left me stranded once when I was in rush hour traffic and it decided to reset the computer which caused the car to only go 10-25 miles an hour. Luckily a policeman came up and escorted me avoiding a major pile up on the interstate. So I decided I would look at the Cobalt since no one had any issues with the Cavalier. I did sit down and decided what I wanted in a car. I wanted an automatic with an air conditioner and rear window defroster. I wanted a radio with a cd player. A car that gets good gas mileage and has an engine with a reliable record. I wanted ABS and traction control for the winter snow. All of these used to be options. My first new car was a 66 VW for which I paid $1342 over three year installment payments. My wife and I went to her Chevy dealer and we test drove a Cobalt. The salesman was nice enough but wanted us to "move up" in the model of Chevy I wanted. I stuck with what I wanted and wound up buying a 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LS with everything I wanted, and to paraphrase another car company "nothing I didn't." Now after 5000 miles I too can say there have not been any problems with my Chevy. It is comfortable, reliable and gets good gas mileage. And the price was right for me, $13000 tax tags and freight out the door. I wish GM would do a better job of advertising by talking the value and strength of the Cobalt instead of having girls jump off bridges into a moving truck load of various Chevy's as I saw in their recent TV ads. Oh well, the point of this post is to put something new up and to say I am really happy with my automotive appliance, my new Cobalt.
#1744 of 2240 Re: Well, I really like my Cobalt [cwo4]
Aug 20, 2006 (3:14 pm)
Great post! Informative, interesting and to the point.