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Chevrolet Cobalt, Coupe, Sedan
#1477 of 2240 Re: Leader in it's class [poncho167]
Nov 10, 2005 (8:01 pm)
What is the difference between the regular Acura and the other. Isn't it the same engine?
The Type S has 201 HP without using a blower. The base engine RSX is 155HP. Torque is 140# compared to 139#.
I am sure the 2007 will be pumped up even more. The gas mileage is about the same between RSX and SS Cobalts. Cobalt gets a couple less MPG on the freeway. The only thing off hand that may be better dollar wise in getting an SS would be the engines torque, which is a good 200#. Resale will likely be less than a full dressed non-blown Cobalt if sold or traded in in three to five years. That said, if you prefer the Chevy, and it seems like more fun to you, and you can afford it, it is the one to buy. Go for it! The best handling FWD car was the Celica, but Toyota has abandoned the little guy - oh well.
#1478 of 2240 Re: Leader in it's class [m1miata]
Nov 11, 2005 (4:14 pm)
The 201 hp can be bested by a few 4 cylinder regular aspirated cars out there, so that is not so impressive, neither is the SC Cobalts. The Acura if I read correctly is to get a boost to 215 hp. I agree turbo and sc cars have traditionally shown to have less resale than others, not to mention extra maintenance. That is almost like getting a motocross bike and saying that you never raced it when selling. Sure you didn't.
#1479 of 2240 Re: Leader in it's class [poncho167]
Nov 14, 2005 (7:57 pm)
What are the naturally aspirated 4 cyl cars that are over 200 horse? I'd think that would be tough to beat.
#1480 of 2240 Re: Leader in it's class [gsemike]
Nov 15, 2005 (7:35 pm)
There was/were a few. I have to admit I can't come up with many, but I believe there were a couple European models that had high output 4 cylinder multi-valve engines before they changed to 6 cylinders. GM's Quad 4 2.3 liter engine in the Olds 442 HO Cutlass Calia (or what ever it was called) had an optional 185 hp engine back in the early 1990's. Over 200 hp was Porsche's 944S2 with its big 3 liter 4 engine had 208 hp.
Nov 15, 2005 (10:53 pm)
The 22K Cobalt compares to the base Mustang, which is under 20K.
Nov 16, 2005 (7:03 pm)
What about the new Civics with some models starting at $20,000. I recently read I write up on a model and it was said that it was hard to tell the difference between a new Civic or a Toyota Corolla if it wasn't for the different badge on the grill. Though not an ugly car, the Civic in my opinion is more bland looking than the Cobalt, and the Cobalt edges it in overall styling. The Mustang definatly has more styling, though it doesn't do much for me.
#1483 of 2240 Re: [poncho167]
Nov 16, 2005 (11:39 pm)
What about the new Civics with some models starting at $20,000. I recently read I write up on a model and it was said that it was hard to tell the difference between a new Civic or a Toyota Corolla if it wasn't for the different badge on the grill. Though not an ugly car, the Civic in my opinion is more bland looking than the Cobalt, and the Cobalt edges it in overall styling. The Mustang definitely has more styling, though it doesn't do much for me.
Well, let's see, a $20K Civic??? Nope, not a good buy, though if you are talking an Si, it may light someone's fire and be worth it. Most Civic are worth around $15 to $17K at the most. The Cobalt, with not as great a re-sale, and GM financial woes, will likely not bring as good as sell price.
The new Civic is a cab forward design and looks nothing like a Corolla. The coupe looks pretty neat, and the sedan is so-so. Not sure I do like deep dash and long slope windshield.
Seems to me for $20K or higher, something like the Mustang is a lot more style, and sporty looks. And if ya are talking coupes and sedans, you can get Accords, or G6's for that much money.
With the red tag specials, as in future pricing on GM cars, the Cobalt should be somewhere in the $12K to $15K range, so that ain't so bad a deal. But $22K for little GM car??? Heck, I would not pay more than $20K for an Impala.
Nov 17, 2005 (5:15 am)
You have got to admit the Civic does not stand out from other Japanese compacts. It could be put side by side with the others and it almost looks like the same mold. There really wasn't a big surprise in waiting for this car other than someone who wants a navigation system in a $20,000 + compact car.
Nov 17, 2005 (6:55 am)
Are you talking about the brand new Civic or the last gen? The last gen was very much vanilla. I even think that the 96-2000 design was better looking.
The styling on the new Civic is definately love it or hate it, but it definately looks new and doesn't look anything like a Corolla.
I'm not crazy about the design myself but I give them credit for the agressive, futuristic styling whereas the Cobalt just looks like an updated Cavalier. The Cobalt easily could have been a 1995 instead of a 2005.
#1486 of 2240 Re: Civic [gsemike]
Nov 17, 2005 (6:49 pm)
I am talking about the new Civic, the long wait, the boring look-a-like Japanese car. I agree with the write-ups I have read thus far, another Corolla like car with a different badge. Not an ugly car, but one that does not stand out. As I stated before, in my opinion the plain Cobalt has better styling.