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Chevrolet Cobalt, Coupe, Sedan
#1204 of 2240 Re: 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt/Pontiac Pursuit [ron_m]
Jul 04, 2005 (11:19 am)
Did you Lemon Law it? How did you resolve the problems? In Florida, you have to have it in the shop three times for the same problem then contact the manufacturer and if the problem happens for a fourth time GM steps in and tries to fix it. Or it has to be in the shop for 15 days then you can start the process. I have already reported the problems to GM and they have been very good about staying in touch to find out what is going on.
My car now has some warning ligths flashing but nothing that is consistant. A huge variety of piddly things that I think will eventually drive me insane! Did GM take care of you? I asked the dealer where I purchased the car what I can do to get rid of it and he said the best thing that I could do is wait it out and Lemon Law it. Not very comforting.
I paid cash for my car so I only have the minimum insurance on it so every time I take it to the dealer they give me a "loaner" which cost me 10.00 a day for the additional insurance.
What did you do? Thank you for your feed back. Its very reassuring.
#1205 of 2240 Snow tires for SS coupe???
Jul 05, 2005 (5:36 am)
I was talking to my local Chevy dealer about purchasing a SS Cobalt. I expressed my concern about winter driving. They told me it wouldn't be a problem to put 17" snow tires on the factory 18" rims. I questioned this and they told me it would work.
Is this right??????? If they are full of it, can I get snow tires for this car??? Many thanks for any responses
#1206 of 2240 That most definately will not work...
Jul 05, 2005 (8:39 am)
To even suggest such a thing is plain stupid on their part. No way will 17" tires fit 18" rims. That dealer must have Forrest Gump for a service manager. I'd advise you to avoid this dealer in the future unless you have no other choice. You should be able to get 18" snow tires for your stock rims. Or maybe a tire/wheel combo in 17" size. Try www.tirerack.com for possibilites. Great site with good research. Or find a local tire shop to do the work.
#1207 of 2240 Re: That most definately will not work... [tazereli]
Jul 05, 2005 (11:06 am)
I tried telling them it wouldn't work but they "assured" me it would!!!
I checked tirerack. Would you recommend the 17" or 16" rim and snow tire??? They have both combinations and I was wondering what would work better.
#1209 of 2240 Re: That most definately will not work... [tazereli]
Jul 05, 2005 (2:04 pm)
Bridgestone Blizzak are supposed to be the best. I saw on their website that they have 17 and 18" tires available for cars. I read in a tire test once that they have an expected life of about 10,000 miles, which for the average driver is about two seasons. Continental also has winter tires.
#1210 of 2240 Re: That most definately will not work... [sleukem]
Jul 05, 2005 (5:34 pm)
I wasn't telling anything that you already didn't know. I dont have much experience with GM FWD products in the snow other than my brother in law's '96 Sunfire. I dont recall him having many problems.
If I had my druthers, I'd seek out a 16" wheel combo. Narrower tires usually do better in the snow since they cut through rather than ride on top of the with a wider tire. Barring that, follow Pat's advice and post in the other forum that was mentioned. I have some experience after 4 years of installing/selling tires for Sears Auto back in my college days but haven't been up to speed much since 1998 when it comes to tires. Other than what I've ordered from the tire rack over the past 6 years. Good Luck!
#1211 of 2240 Re: 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt/Pontiac Pursuit [frustrated8]
Jul 06, 2005 (6:00 am)
Actually, no, I did not attempt to enforce the Lemon Law. I probably should have though. The regional GM rep was a hard nut to crack regarding a buyback. About the best I could get out of him without hiring an attorney was a "free 100,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty". Which to me wasn't a satisfactory solution, because I would still have had to spend way too much time taking the vehicle to the dealership--leading to lost time from work, having to drive crappy rental cars, etc. The whole experience was a major drain! This particular SUV did meet my state's Lemon Law criteria, because I had to take it in three different times for a faulty rear pinion seal that lead to fluid leaking on my then new, concrete driveway. And I am the one that had to end up diagnosing the problem, because the dealership said that they "positively cannot spot any leaks".
Admittedly, part of the problems that I experienced were due to a lame dealership. I ended up taking it to a different dealership that was much more courteous in nature regarding the average employee's attitude towards customer service. However, their service techs' expertise wasn't really that much better than the first dealership's. If they corrected one issue, they would screw something else up in the process.
For me, the ultimate resolution was that I traded it in on another brand of vehicle. It has been three years now since I traded, and I have yet to experience a single problem with the replacement vehicle. In fact, nothing even remotely resembling a mechanical, electrical or trim/finish issue has occurred thus far. I'd better knock on wood, but so far, so good!
I'd start out by discussing your vehicle with the regional rep. Make sure you have formal, detailed documentation of all the problems that you have encountered thus far--dates included. Some states provide free Lemon Law legal representation. I'd pursue that through your home state and see what they can do for you there. I believe that you can also pursue a Lemon Law or buyback case through your attorney general's office. It's that way in my home state.
Once again, best of luck to you. Please let us know how you come out on this deal.
#1212 of 2240 Re: That most definately will not work... [tazereli]
Jul 06, 2005 (12:43 pm)
The dealership I was negotiating the deal with refused to sell me the car!!!
I was all set to buy it when they told me I HAD to finance it through them or they couldn't sell me the car! I told them I already had financing. They said they would match the rate from my bank. I told them they would have to do better than that to make me give up my prearranged financing. They told me that they couldn't. They told me those were the terms and if I didn't like them I could buy the car somewhere else. I told them I would give my business to a dealership that wanted to sell cars!!!
I know they wanted to make money on the financing since they aren't making anything on the car due to the employee discount. But NO ONE tells me where I have to finance my money!!!!
#1213 of 2240 Re: That most definately will not work... [sleukem]
Jul 06, 2005 (2:20 pm)
You said, in part:
I know they wanted to make money on the financing since they aren't making anything on the car due to the employee discount.
Not true - GM slipped another 5% discount to the dealer to make up for the below invoice pricing.
Sometimes the F&I (finance and insurance) people are a separate department from sales. I would take the issue back to the sales manager next time. The last time I bought a car they offered to give me 5 days to refinance through my own company. Sometimes they want you to fill out a credit information in case your financing falls through. That much is reasonable. I have heard of people having to fill out finance applications when they were paying cash (certified check) for the same reason, in case the check didn't clear!