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#2836 of 2869 Re: 2005 Buick Terraza Automatic Door problems [stobar] by markdel Mar 29, 2008 (8:14 am)
Replying to: stobar (Mar 29, 2008 6:13 am) I own a 2006 Saturn Relay 3 and the only problem I've had is that intermittenly the Power door (right side) will close, then open slightly and close again like it was reseating or trying to relock... But, other than that, no problems. And, that only happens once or twice a month, maybe. I bought it in October of 2006, and have 28,000 miles on it. Mark
#2837 of 2869 Latest Falling Apart by bill_mcgonigle Mar 31, 2008 (9:27 pm)
This month the third wheel bearing went, the rear wiper motor 'burned out', and the front and rear knuckle bushings are shot. Nobody makes replacement bushings apparently, so the whole assemblies needs replacing to the tune of about $1700 altogether. 55K miles, paid off in three months...   Speaking of paid off, has anybody noticed how poor the resale value is on these things? Not even three years old, the $32K vehicle lists on KBB for under $9K. The comparable Toyota does almost 50% better. (yeah, I can see why) Replies to this message: genmtrfan (Apr 03, 2008 2:18 pm) bill_mcgonigle (Apr 05, 2008 10:01 am) genmtrfan (Apr 07, 2008 7:28 pm) dilton_dalton (Apr 08, 2009 3:21 pm)
#2838 of 2869 Re: Latest Falling Apart [bill_mcgonigle] by genmtrfan Apr 03, 2008 (2:18 pm)
Replying to: bill_mcgonigle (Mar 31, 2008 9:27 pm) Is your van AWD? They seem to have had more trouble. How did you know when a wheel bearing was going out? We have 50K on ours and have had to replace a control arm link which was $30. I replaced that myself. That's all the money we've spent on it. We had the typical molding/flickering headlight issues that were fixed under warranty. I haven't heard a lot of people talk about wheel bearings or knuckle bushings on this site. By the way, what is a knuckle bushing?   So far we're very pleased with ours. We're averaging 21 mpg in mixed driving and 25 on trips. From what I read, the Oddessy can't touch that. There is also a droning noise that Oddessy owners are complaining about that cannot be repaired. We'll see how the next 50K goes, but for 23,800 (list of 30,300) I saved a ton of money over the imports. In addition, I think the ride and handling are best in class. The ride is soft, and the handling is sufficient at low speeds and the van feels very stable on the interstate (probably due to the 17" wheels).   So far, we've had no door or DVD issues and believe me with 4 kids, it's not because of lack of use.   The one area I am unhappy about is the lack of curtain airbags in the back. GM should have figured out how to put them in. Replies to this message: bill_mcgonigle (Apr 05, 2008 10:01 am) genmtrfan (Apr 07, 2008 7:28 pm) dilton_dalton (Apr 08, 2009 3:21 pm)
#2839 of 2869 Re: 05 Saturn Relay and 3 sets of tires later [bsrice] by bsrice Apr 05, 2008 (4:36 am)
Replying to: bsrice (Feb 25, 2008 1:56 pm) Update: After numerous conversations with Saturn 800 #, as a good faith jesture they gave me 1 carpayment check. I went and bought Mich tires all 4 for $800. In the Saturn dealership now getting brakes done and oil change. Having the car aligned Monday by a body shop (that I trust). If these tires start the same thing, I will be back on the line with Saturn and open another ticket. Giving that I am out of warrenty, I will have to start the whole business case over again. I have 2 more years on the damn loan and because it lost so much value in these first 2 I am stuck with it. Saturn won't even buy it back or give me a good trade in amount. Who would want to roll over the balance of a loan from a bad vechicle. 56K on it today 90% highway. Tires shouldn't cup, but guess they do when the cambre is set to -1.3 and is considered inspec.
#2840 of 2869 Re: Latest Falling Apart [genmtrfan] by bill_mcgonigle Apr 05, 2008 (10:01 am)
Replying to: genmtrfan (Apr 03, 2008 2:18 pm) Yes, AWD. You know the bearings are going when you start to hear first a hum, then a growl, then a grind from one of the wheels. By now we know to get them done at the growl, as it's a potential safety issue (however remote).   I need to look more into this camber issue. If they really were mis-aligning the wheels to cover up a design flaw this would explain all the tire problems and, now I'm wondering, perhaps the bearing wear problems. If the small sample of owners here is anything like the ownership population at large, that's a large class of customers buying lots of tires. Does anybody have a cite on what they did, like a TSB or something?   FWIW, Pontiac still hasn't responded to my complaint; time to send a certified letter, I suppose. Like others I'd rather just be rid of it, but at less than 1/3 of its value 2.5 years in I'm gonna have to live with it and hope for a meteor strike. Replies to this message: genmtrfan (Apr 07, 2008 7:28 pm)
#2841 of 2869 Re: Latest Falling Apart [bill_mcgonigle] by genmtrfan Apr 07, 2008 (7:28 pm)
Replying to: bill_mcgonigle (Apr 05, 2008 10:01 am) You may be right about the wheels and allignment. We had the same problem with tires. They were shot at 16K. Funny thing is, I replaced them with Yokohama's and now have 35K on them with no problem. Goodyear Integrities are not a very good tire, but still there are many vehicles with them that don't cup.   We're at 50K and had no wheel bearing problems, knock on wood. But, we don't have AWD. Is yours an '05 or '06? Chevy changed the wheels to a 6-bolt pattern in '06. Wonder if that helped? If you ready the reviews, people that bought '07's and '08's are generally happier with the vans. They came with the bigger engine and didn't have many of the issues that the earlier models did.
#2842 of 2869 AM Static, 2005 Terraza by xs11e Jun 01, 2008 (4:03 pm)
I have really bad static on AM stations on my 2005 Buick Terraza, FM and CD and XM seem to be OK. Unfortunately, I almost always listen to AM radio because they broadcast the Arizona Diamondback games!   Anyone have a similar problem or know how to fix it?   Is it possible that GM left out all the filters so people would subscribe to XM radio?
#2843 of 2869 AM Radio on Saturn Relay III (2006 Model Yr) by markdel Jun 02, 2008 (9:35 am)
My AM reception is very poor, and has been from day one. I just don't use AM so did not complain/demand repair as it would have been a 100+ mile drive for the warrenty service.
#2844 of 2869 06 relay by lopez2 Jun 08, 2008 (6:38 pm)
hello,new here,mi wife relay is drivingme crazy,abs and traction control ligths on,now check engine ligth on,and gas gauge are going crazy,go full go empty,did someone had that problem before,please advice thanks Replies to this message: xs11e (Jul 03, 2008 2:35 pm)
#2845 of 2869 Re: 06 relay [lopez2] by xs11e Jul 03, 2008 (2:35 pm)
Replying to: lopez2 (Jun 08, 2008 6:38 pm) Sell the piece of junk, mine turns out to have a bad battery, warped brake rotors, The Stability warning comes on, dealer can't find out why, Transmission Oil Hot warning comes on, dealer can't find out why.   I've had this thing less than a month and it's got to be the worst car I've EVER owned.   My problem is that I spent money I really can't afford to get a van that could carry my mobility scooter and I'm now stuck with a vehicle I can't drive anywhere because of the transmission problem. I'm not able to walk much, I need the van to visit my sister and the drive takes me through too many places with no cell phone coverage so I'm afraid to go.   I'll sell it but I'll probably lose a bunch of money doing so....   Sorry for the whine but... you asked!

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