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#2831 of 2869 Re: AWD Disabled [bill_mcgonigle] by bill_mcgonigle Mar 20, 2008 (7:08 pm)
Replying to: bill_mcgonigle (Feb 25, 2008 2:19 pm) This issue was assigned ODI# 10221777 at the NHTSA, if anybody else wants to add to it.
#2832 of 2869 2005 Buick Terraza Automatic Door problems by stobar Mar 27, 2008 (4:02 pm)
My 2005 Buick Terraza has been having problems with the passenger side automatic door. Every once in awhile, the passenger side automatic door will close, but not fully latch, then open back up. It will not latch completely. I took it in to have it looked at and got the standard "could not duplicate problem". Is there a TSB on this or can someone steer me in the right direction for a fix to this? I had this same problem a little over a year ago and they thought it was due to the rubber molding not being seated correctly so they replaced the molding. That worked for about 5 months, and once again, the door will periodically not latch fully and reopen. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Replies to this message: rlmiller9 (Mar 27, 2008 5:19 pm) stobar (Mar 29, 2008 6:13 am) rlmiller9 (Mar 29, 2008 6:55 am) markdel (Mar 29, 2008 8:14 am) alastan (Jul 30, 2008 5:48 pm)
#2833 of 2869 Re: 2005 Buick Terraza Automatic Door problems [stobar] by rlmiller9 Mar 27, 2008 (5:19 pm)
Replying to: stobar (Mar 27, 2008 4:02 pm) Our Saturn Relay had the same issue, I think they fixed it and charged me like 200$, and when we were on vacation with some friends of ours that had an 8 year old odyseus and there doors still worked that was what made me decide to trade the saturn. Replies to this message: stobar (Mar 29, 2008 6:13 am) rlmiller9 (Mar 29, 2008 6:55 am) markdel (Mar 29, 2008 8:14 am)
#2834 of 2869 Re: 2005 Buick Terraza Automatic Door problems [rlmiller9] by stobar Mar 29, 2008 (6:13 am)
Replying to: rlmiller9 (Mar 27, 2008 5:19 pm) Thanks. I still have over 20K miles left on a 5 year, 60K, 0 deductible warranty, so I'll keep taking it back until they fix. I believe there might be a TSB on this, just need to research it. Have had it for over 2 years and love all the bells and whistles so no plan on trading it in. I've put 40K on it and the gas mileage is surprisingly good for its size. I knew someone that owned the Saturn Relay and they had all sorts of problems with it. I've been lucky with the Terraza. Replies to this message: rlmiller9 (Mar 29, 2008 6:55 am) markdel (Mar 29, 2008 8:14 am)
#2835 of 2869 Re: 2005 Buick Terraza Automatic Door problems [stobar] by rlmiller9 Mar 29, 2008 (6:55 am)
Replying to: stobar (Mar 29, 2008 6:13 am) I think they are the same vans? We actually really liked ours, had the backup helpers, dvd player, roomy. The mileage was good, I just got a bad feeling from it . Also had a 0% loan which made it even harder to trade, but we used it to (very occasionaly) pull our small boat and that made me even more nervous. I wanted to lease another but they stoped making the saturn version so we went with a sienna.
#2836 of 2869 Re: 2005 Buick Terraza Automatic Door problems [stobar] by markdel Mar 29, 2008 (8:14 am)
Replying to: stobar (Mar 29, 2008 6:13 am) I own a 2006 Saturn Relay 3 and the only problem I've had is that intermittenly the Power door (right side) will close, then open slightly and close again like it was reseating or trying to relock... But, other than that, no problems. And, that only happens once or twice a month, maybe. I bought it in October of 2006, and have 28,000 miles on it. Mark
#2837 of 2869 Latest Falling Apart by bill_mcgonigle Mar 31, 2008 (9:27 pm)
This month the third wheel bearing went, the rear wiper motor 'burned out', and the front and rear knuckle bushings are shot. Nobody makes replacement bushings apparently, so the whole assemblies needs replacing to the tune of about $1700 altogether. 55K miles, paid off in three months...   Speaking of paid off, has anybody noticed how poor the resale value is on these things? Not even three years old, the $32K vehicle lists on KBB for under $9K. The comparable Toyota does almost 50% better. (yeah, I can see why) Replies to this message: genmtrfan (Apr 03, 2008 2:18 pm) bill_mcgonigle (Apr 05, 2008 10:01 am) genmtrfan (Apr 07, 2008 7:28 pm) dilton_dalton (Apr 08, 2009 3:21 pm)
#2838 of 2869 Re: Latest Falling Apart [bill_mcgonigle] by genmtrfan Apr 03, 2008 (2:18 pm)
Replying to: bill_mcgonigle (Mar 31, 2008 9:27 pm) Is your van AWD? They seem to have had more trouble. How did you know when a wheel bearing was going out? We have 50K on ours and have had to replace a control arm link which was $30. I replaced that myself. That's all the money we've spent on it. We had the typical molding/flickering headlight issues that were fixed under warranty. I haven't heard a lot of people talk about wheel bearings or knuckle bushings on this site. By the way, what is a knuckle bushing?   So far we're very pleased with ours. We're averaging 21 mpg in mixed driving and 25 on trips. From what I read, the Oddessy can't touch that. There is also a droning noise that Oddessy owners are complaining about that cannot be repaired. We'll see how the next 50K goes, but for 23,800 (list of 30,300) I saved a ton of money over the imports. In addition, I think the ride and handling are best in class. The ride is soft, and the handling is sufficient at low speeds and the van feels very stable on the interstate (probably due to the 17" wheels).   So far, we've had no door or DVD issues and believe me with 4 kids, it's not because of lack of use.   The one area I am unhappy about is the lack of curtain airbags in the back. GM should have figured out how to put them in. Replies to this message: bill_mcgonigle (Apr 05, 2008 10:01 am) genmtrfan (Apr 07, 2008 7:28 pm) dilton_dalton (Apr 08, 2009 3:21 pm)
#2839 of 2869 Re: 05 Saturn Relay and 3 sets of tires later [bsrice] by bsrice Apr 05, 2008 (4:36 am)
Replying to: bsrice (Feb 25, 2008 1:56 pm) Update: After numerous conversations with Saturn 800 #, as a good faith jesture they gave me 1 carpayment check. I went and bought Mich tires all 4 for $800. In the Saturn dealership now getting brakes done and oil change. Having the car aligned Monday by a body shop (that I trust). If these tires start the same thing, I will be back on the line with Saturn and open another ticket. Giving that I am out of warrenty, I will have to start the whole business case over again. I have 2 more years on the damn loan and because it lost so much value in these first 2 I am stuck with it. Saturn won't even buy it back or give me a good trade in amount. Who would want to roll over the balance of a loan from a bad vechicle. 56K on it today 90% highway. Tires shouldn't cup, but guess they do when the cambre is set to -1.3 and is considered inspec.
#2840 of 2869 Re: Latest Falling Apart [genmtrfan] by bill_mcgonigle Apr 05, 2008 (10:01 am)
Replying to: genmtrfan (Apr 03, 2008 2:18 pm) Yes, AWD. You know the bearings are going when you start to hear first a hum, then a growl, then a grind from one of the wheels. By now we know to get them done at the growl, as it's a potential safety issue (however remote).   I need to look more into this camber issue. If they really were mis-aligning the wheels to cover up a design flaw this would explain all the tire problems and, now I'm wondering, perhaps the bearing wear problems. If the small sample of owners here is anything like the ownership population at large, that's a large class of customers buying lots of tires. Does anybody have a cite on what they did, like a TSB or something?   FWIW, Pontiac still hasn't responded to my complaint; time to send a certified letter, I suppose. Like others I'd rather just be rid of it, but at less than 1/3 of its value 2.5 years in I'm gonna have to live with it and hope for a meteor strike. Replies to this message: genmtrfan (Apr 07, 2008 7:28 pm)

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