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Re: power port? [bill_mcgonigle] by infinia1
Jan 23, 2008 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: bill_mcgonigle (Jan 22, 2008 1:15 pm)

Ok, ok...I'm an idiot!
 
I found the power port...hiding...way down by the floor like you said. I was just going by what the owner's manual said, "...located below the climate controls on the instrument panel." Well I guess they ARE below...WAY below. I'm just glad I found it. My wife is happy again.
 
Now I have to figure out how to program the homelink for the garage door. Thanks bill.
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Re: power port? [infinia1] by bill_mcgonigle
Jan 23, 2008 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: infinia1 (Jan 23, 2008 11:57 am)

I know what you mean - my manuals appear to try to cover as generic a vehicle as they can for as many pages as possible. I mean, for a thirty thousand dollar vehicle they can't very well be expected to write a unique and accurate manual, can they?
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AWD Disabled by bill_mcgonigle
Feb 06, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Does anybody else have a problem with the AWD System disabling itself just when you need it? It seems to be caused by icy slush. I think last time we had it to the dealer they had to reset something in the computer, and blamed it on a wet sensor. '05 SV6
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Re: new features/ van [writer] by monty8
Feb 16, 2008 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: writer (Sep 02, 2007 7:52 pm)

Mini vans transport children. Children should have side curtain airbags. To put side impact airbags in the front and not in the rear, when it is equipped with at least five more seats, is a terrible decision. Any parent would agree. Our children's safety is of utmost importance. Side windows are usually only down when driving through a park, so the kids can see better, at speeds under 20 km. As far as the power windows, I have had nothing but GM vehicles for the last twenty years, and never experienced any problems. Side curtain airbags should be available. For someone with no children, it is an option that they can choose not to take. For parents, the option is a vital one.
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05 Saturn Relay and 3 sets of tires later by bsrice
Feb 25, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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I have a Saturn Relay (05), after the first 8000 miles and 1 rotation of my tires my rear tires were cupping and wearing the inside of the tires. So after some complaining of the noise etc, Saturn Dealership put 2 new tires on. 12000 miles later same thing, tires on the rear cupping and making noise. I have them balanced and rotated every 6-8000 miles, have it aligned 1x a year. At about 25000 miles another 2 tires go on. I started to question the tires (Integrity) and the vechicle itself. A new van should not go through tires. 43000 guess what, rear tires cupping and wearing the inside. Saturn says alignment is to specs. Called 800 number and set up ticket, asked if anyone else is having this problem. Finally took to an autobody shop for second opinion. They put it on the alignment machine, said it was to Saturn specs, but that the rear camber looked alittle too much for a van. -1.1 and -1.2. This causes it to run on the inside tread. Told Saturn this, its is for better handleing. 4 sets of tires is not better handleing. So my 05 with 53,000 miles is going through tires. Anyone else have this issue with their Saturn Relay/Uplander sisters?
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05 Saturn Relay and 3 sets of tires later by bsrice
Feb 25, 2008 (1:56 pm)
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I have a Saturn Relay (05), after the first 8000 miles and 1 rotation of my tires my rear tires were cupping and wearing the inside of the tires. So after some complaining of the noise etc, Saturn Dealership put 2 new tires on. 12000 miles later same thing, tires on the rear cupping and making noise. I have them balanced and rotated every 6-8000 miles, have it aligned 1x a year. At about 25000 miles another 2 tires go on. I started to question the tires (Integrity) and the vehicle itself. A new van should not go through tires. 43000 guess what, rear tires cupping and wearing the inside. Saturn says alignment is to specs. Called 800 number and set up ticket, asked if anyone else is having this problem. Finally took to an auto body shop for second opinion. They put it on the alignment machine, said it was to Saturn specs, but that the rear camber looked a little too much for a van. -1.1 and -1.2. This causes it to run on the inside tread. Told Saturn this, its is for better handling. 4 sets of tires is not better handling. So my 05 with 53,000 miles is going through tires. Anyone else have this issue with their Saturn Relay/Uplander sisters?
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Re: AWD Disabled [bill_mcgonigle] by bill_mcgonigle
Feb 25, 2008 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: bill_mcgonigle (Feb 06, 2008 12:53 pm)

Just a follow-up: I confirmed with the dealer that the hub assembly's AWD sensor can get covered up with mud or slush and the AWD system will disable. In our case, this time, it turned out that the sensor had gone bad, so we had to replace the whole front-right hub assembly. Any AWD system that gets disabled by slush is ludicrously designed, and borderline negligent with regards to safety. I think I'll file a problem report with the NHTSA so it's on-file for others to find.
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Re: AWD Disabled [bill_mcgonigle] by ray80
Feb 28, 2008 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: bill_mcgonigle (Feb 25, 2008 2:19 pm)

Mud and slush by itself shouldn't be a problem, but if enough moisture is allowed intrusion into connection and corrosion follows, that create a problem.
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Re: AWD Disabled [ray80] by bill_mcgonigle
Feb 28, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: ray80 (Feb 28, 2008 4:39 am)

I agree, it shouldn't be a problem, but the dealer says mere accumulation of mud or slush on the sensor is sufficient to disable the AWD. I have a case open with Pontiac to see what they have to say.
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Re: 05 Saturn Relay and 3 sets of tires later [bsrice] by genmtrfan
Mar 11, 2008 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: bsrice (Feb 25, 2008 1:56 pm)

Our '05 Uplander's Integrity's were toast at 16K miles. Rear cupping also a problem. However, I replaced them with Yokahama Avid TRZ's (I think) and now have 33,000 trouble-free miles. I try to rotate about every 5K, but don't always do it. The best thing about these tires are the quiet, soft ride, good handling, and better traction in the rain. They're rated for 80K miles, but I doubt I'll get that, looking more like 60K.
 
In 2006, the GM vans went to a six-lug design, up from 5 lugs in 2005. I wonder if 2006-2008 owners are having tire problems, or if the new wheels addressed it?
 
One good thing is that we're on the original front and rear brake pads at 50K miles, although I have had the rotors resurfaced twice.
 
In May, the Van will be 3 years old so I'll give a detailed update then. In general, most problems were resolved within the first year under warranty.

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