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Warped front rotors on 06 Montana AWD by tmannisi
Aug 05, 2007 (7:15 pm)
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Our Montana has under 20,000 miles, I took it in for vibration when braking. They told me this problem was not covered due to regular routine maintenance! Any Help?
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Re: Warped front rotors on 06 Montana AWD [tmannisi] by uplanderguy
Aug 06, 2007 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: tmannisi (Aug 05, 2007 7:15 pm)

Not true!! Ask them to show you where in your warranty booklet it says that rotors are not covered. It mentions pads and linings, but rotors are neither. I had mine resurfaced on my Uplander free by my dealer, at 22K miles.
 
Also, you may ask them to look at the multi-page GM Service Bulletin about checking rotors, put out in summer '06, that mentions that dealers should also even "consider" replacing brake pads for free--which are clearly listed in the warranty booklet as owner responsibility--for up to 24K miles. If they should "consider" doing this, why wouldn't they resurface rotors under warranty? This is clearly a case of the Service Dept. not fully understanding the GM New Car Warranty.
 
Bill P.
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Re: Warped front rotors on 06 Montana AWD [uplanderguy] by tjhsmith
Aug 07, 2007 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Aug 06, 2007 6:05 am)

Call GM customer service and appeal -- it can't hurt and you might not have to pay the full cost of the repairs. I had this exact same situation happen to me. My Uplander's rotors were warped at mileage in the low 20,000-mile range. The pads were also worn and had to be replaced. The dealer told me that the work wasn't covered by the warranty, since the brake problems were the result of "normal wear." No way is it normal to need this work done at such low mileage. I appealed to GM customer service and they reimbursed me for the cost of the rotor work and some related repairs, but I had to pay for new brake pads. So although they wouldn't come through for the full cost of repairs (like I think they should have) at least I saved a couple of hundred bucks.
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new features/ van by vince730
Aug 22, 2007 (2:55 pm)
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GM really is falling behind the other minivan makers. The minivans need to add features that are normally standard liking power roll down second row windows and power rear vents STANDARD on ALL models. The safety ratings are unnaceptable and side curtain airbags MUST be added. Even if it costs more, its for the safety of our kids. Without these safety features, we are putting our childrens lives in jeapordy everyday, when were just going out for a simple drive. The only feature I really like is the standard dvd player in the car
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Re: new features/ van [vince730] by writer
Sep 02, 2007 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: vince730 (Aug 22, 2007 2:55 pm)

"GM really is falling behind the other minivan makers. The minivans need to add features that are normally standard liking power roll down second row windows and power rear vents STANDARD on ALL models."
 
No. You are assuming that everyone is "just like [you]" and I am not. I will comment on the power stuff later.
 
"The safety ratings are unacceptable and side curtain airbags MUST be added. Even if it costs more, its for the safety of our kids. . . ."
 
What kids? I have no kids. I bought a minivan mainly to carry cargo. If you are just carrying kids, why not just buy a passenger car? Now back to your desire for "power roll down second windows."
 
I thought you wanted your vehicle to be "safe for kids"? If you want to put kids in the second row seats, then do you want them falling out of open windows?
 
I buy vehicles with air conditioning and rarely open windows at all. My car (yes I have both a car and a minivan) does not have power windows. You might not know this, but just about every testing group as confirmed that there is no significant energy saving if you turn off your AC and open your windows. In fact, depending on the vehicle, at higher speeds, you are probably getting worse mileage with the windows open.
 
Also, they are a waste of money simply buying the vehicle in the first place -- yes, you do pay for "standard" stuff like power windows if they are included.
 
Lastly, they just add more bits and pieces to go wrong. In our family we have had some cars with power windows and just about every car with power windows (even Japanese cars) has eventually had problems with them. Usually it is the little switches in the doors to control the windows that go bad. True, not all the switches go bad. Usually it is just one. But that one is enough of an annoyance.
 
The same applies for "power rear vents". I have 1 power rear vent in my minivan. I have opened it exactly once, to see if it works. It does. So now what? Am I supposed to turn on my air conditioner and then open the vent to let the cool air out? Is that what it is for? Or maybe I am supposed to play with it until the motor breaks so I can pay to get it repaired. Is that the point? Or is the point to add unnecessary weight which wastes fuel to show off that I have money to burn? (No, I do not.)
 
So you want all GM vehicles to be the same? Good. Get rid of all that nonsense. Put the money into better construction, better built motors and transmissions, longer warranty coverage. If all GM minivans should be the same, then *that* is what they should be like.
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Re: GM Vans [ppadpat] by gclemm
Sep 06, 2007 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: ppadpat (Jul 07, 2005 9:52 pm)

Does anyone else out there know about the Sit and Lift option for the Uplander/Montana/Terraza?
I saw it on a GM parts website. It's about $4k. Just wonder if it's easy to install and worth the price.
Thanks
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AWD or FWD? by gclemm
Sep 06, 2007 (8:29 pm)
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I'm thinking of purchasing a 2006 Uplander/Terrazo/Montana and wonder if anyone out there views the AWD model as worth the loss of power from a smaller engine vs. the increased power of the engine that comes with the FWD model.
 
Also, does the AWD perform well in the snow and wet weather as far as traction around curvy roads and on hills?
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Re: GM Vans [gclemm] by schwang
Sep 11, 2007 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: gclemm (Sep 06, 2007 8:17 pm)

I am assuming this is in US $$. In Canada it is $7550
 
https://www.acc-acc.ca/acc/main/accdetail.asp?partid=2303&orgpartid=544510.
 
 Don't know about installation but it should be simple enogh to figure out. The only part would be getting the electricity to the chair for operation.
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Re: AWD or FWD? [gclemm] by schwang
Sep 11, 2007 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: gclemm (Sep 06, 2007 8:29 pm)

I have only owned FWD vehicles and never had a problem in the snow. AWD just means more money when it comes time to repair etc....
 
As for the traction control in the rain it might be a worth while investment depending where you lived. If you live in a constant rainy city live Vancouver,BC it would pay for its self .... lol
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Re: AWD or FWD? [gclemm] by tmannisi
Sep 15, 2007 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: gclemm (Sep 06, 2007 8:29 pm)

We own a 06 Montana AWD. We previously owned a 99 Olds Silhouette FWD. The difference in the ride and handling alone is worth the AWD model. Although the Buick Terraza has the independant rear suspension on AWD/FWD except on 07 models.
As far as performance goes, there is not a lot of difference because the AWD has an axle ratio of 3.69 versus 3.29 on FWD. We tow a boat that weighs 3,000 pounds, and I feel the higher number axle ratio does a better job. The 3.9 V6 with AWD would have been the ultimate, but GM did not offer that.
We had a mild winter in St. Louis last year, but just playing around the AWD was certainly reassuring!

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