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#2630 of 2926 Light flicker on 3.5, etc.
by genmtrfan
Jun 02, 2006 (9:35 am)
I'm not sure the bigger alternator solved the problem for most. The TSB on the issue, back in Feb. '05 said to replace the 105 amp with the new 105 amp and the 125 amp with the new 125 amp. For most, this helped the problem, but did not completely solve it (thus, the people on this forum who've reported going through 4-5 alternators). Even with my van, I can still notice it even after having my 105 amp changed. If it was as simple as replacing the 105 amp with the 125 amp, wouldn't GM have prescribed that for everyone with the issue instead of buying back vans? Like I said, for us the flicker is very minor, but I'd still like GM to be able to completely fix it. I'm glad they're going to the 3.9 in 2007. With the 3.9 and having refined production quality, I'd say that this will be the best year for the vans. They're currently selling about 100K units per year, most of which are Uplanders. In May 2006, Buick and Saturn only sold about 500 units each and Pontiac sold 1,500. Chevy sold 4,800. No wonder they're discontinuing one of the lesser-selling models. To me the Buick is the most differentiated, with the independent rear suspension. But GM is eliminating that option in 2007. I guess they're just not selling enough to justify that option.
#2632 of 2926 Re: Light flicker on 3.5, etc. [genmtrfan]
by morewasabi
Jun 02, 2006 (10:27 am)
Looks like the Pontiac SV6 actually had a sales increase of 11% to 1796 units. The Uplander is the leader among the brands. The Buick Terraza was down 49.9% at 775 units and the Saturn Relay was down 66.8% at 460 units. Given these number I bet you could get a good deal on the Buick or Saturn. I think the Chevy and Pontiac are also sold to the car rental fleets.
#2633 of 2926 Re: Light flicker on 3.5, etc. [morewasabi]
by stobar
Jun 03, 2006 (6:22 pm)
I was wondering how you get your monthly sales figures for the GM van line? Is there a website that lists this info? I've had my new '05 Terraza a month now and have been extremely happy with it. In fact, the little country dealer that I bought it at still had a new '05 Terraza, '05 Uplander, and an '05 SV6 Montana left over. They say that GM is not offering them the incentives to move these vehicles as in years past. I had a friend that was getting ready to buy a Kia on Friday that I told to check out this dealer. I was able to get 8200 off the sticker. You'd think they would be itching to get rid of them with '07's coming out in about 4 months. The Montana and Uplander had a sticker of $34K. Must be fully loaded. I'll find out Monday if he was able to land a good deal on one of the remaining 05's.
#2634 of 2926 Re: Light flicker on 3.5, etc. [stobar]
by morewasabi
Jun 04, 2006 (9:37 pm)
Go to www.GM.com. Then go to the tab in the blue bar "GM News"
Then go to the article 2006-06-01 GM Delivers 345,157 Vehicles In May
This will bring you to the May monthly figures. Go to the spreadsheets at the bottom of the article. You can serarch by car, truck, model. Compare to last months sales, YTD and previous months data
Here is the direct link:
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gm- - - news/viewmonthlyreleasedetail.do?domain=74&docid=26343
I would also check out the current incentive tab to see what they have going in your region.
My recommendation is to deal from invoice only. Find out what the dealers invoice is.
Do and inventory search of all Uplanders in your market place. Take a look at the MSRP sticker and see each individual Uplanders make up. Take that information, compare to the dealers invoice from www.kbb.com ( Kelly Blue Book). Now you have some fire power:
1. GM buy power lets you see the inventory and you kind find which dealer has the largest inventory, thus the need to unload those extra Uplanders. Gmbuypower at http://www.gmbuypower.com
2. You can pull the cost from Kelly Blue Book, so you know the spread between dealers markup and MSRP. http://www.kbb.com/
3. You also know from the GM Corp web site that some vehicles are selling less month to month, so you may be able to get a better deal on a Buick instead of the Chevy
4. You know the incentives before you walk into the dealership.
5. I would have my financing already worked out, so you also keep this negotiating to your advantage.
6. You make your offer and walk if they say no, knowing that you have lots of other options as you can see their inventory.
MSRP on our 2005 Buick Terazza CXL was $33K. We walked out the door at $26K
That's with every option except Navigation and Phat Noise.
#2635 of 2926 Re: No 5-spd... [beach15]
by madd
Jun 06, 2006 (7:54 pm)
Well beach15, thats because GM dosen't make 5 speed transmissions - BUT they buy them from Japan....
My '06 Equinox FWD has an automatic 5 spd made in Japan.....
#2636 of 2926 06 Terraza Brakes and Fan output
by wannawonda
Jun 09, 2006 (4:39 pm)
We recently test drove a 06 Terraza CXL FWD, well we have actually test driven it 3 times!. I love it, except for the lack of third row curtain air bags and a funny thing with fan output. I noticed that when you step on the brakes to slow the rear fan output slows down. It happened when on heater and a/c but not every time I applied the brakes. Has anyone had similar experience? Or does anyone know what this is do to?
Thanks
#2637 of 2926 Re: 06 Terraza Brakes and Fan output [wannawonda]
by danno
Jun 12, 2006 (5:41 am)
I noticed the same thing on my 2005 Uplander. It has had the alternator replaced on the lights flickering recall. Seems the electrical system does not compensate quickly enough for the decrease in engine speed and resulting less alternator speed giving less electrical power. Just a theory and no idea what the fix might be.
Jun 12, 2006 (3:59 pm)
Ok, im new to this forum so ill try to explain everything all the way thru.
my mother has a 99 Pontiac Montana That has almost 90,000 Miles on it and has had electrical problems for a long time but no motor problems. until now. she was driving,and all the sudden all dash lights came on at once and the van jerked and i pulled over,shut it off, turned it back on, and it just shook. so i shut it off again, had it towed to a mechanic who was supposed to be one of the best.
He now has had it a little over 2 and a half months, and cant figure out whats wrong. he has tried everything he can think of, ask everyone he knows, and even spent his day off at a nascar race asking everyone he could about it. Now its no longer a job, its an obsession. he has paid all the labor to the other mechanics,isnt charging for any parts except for the 2 injectors he first thought it was and is working alone on it night and day.
my power sliding door quit working after they installed the "saftey recall", and the passenger side power window motor now needs replaced because it keeps slowing down when i hit the button and speeding back up when its almost all the way down.
If anyone has any suggestions or needs more details feel free to email me at coolio13576hotmail.com
or reply on here. ANYTHING WOULD BE APPRICIATED!!! i need anything anyone can think of..
Thank you,
Michael