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#2267 of 2927 Re: Buick Terraza
Sep 27, 2005 (3:28 pm)
Just an update on the Terraza's...I've got about 9,000 miles now...bought it in Feb. 2005. My dealer is great! I bring it in for service, and any problems he takes care of. Which leads me to the latest. I noticed a "clicking" sound from the front end, sort of like a loose shock absorber. Well, New York City is known for its' pot-holes, so the stabilizer links were wearing out. The dealer replaced them... no charge, of course. Then, my sons heard a hissing noise from the back. The dealer found that the hose from the air pump to the rear shocks was kinked. The dealer replaced it...no charge. It's still the nicest car I've ever had (I'm 67), and the grand children love the DVD player. I get about 27 MPG on the highway at about 65 MPH, and about 20 MPG around the city.
#2268 of 2927 Re: Listen Up [mobile1]
Sep 27, 2005 (5:17 pm)
I have had the same whistling noise at about 2100 rpm and during acceleration also. Had to take it to the dealer twice before they heard the noise and only when I was riding with them. They are going to perform a updated version of #05-06-01-005a which is 005b. This the replacement of the PCV tube. To replace the tube it also requires the replacement of the Intake(Upper) Manifold. I am taking it in tomorrow and hope this fixes it. Has the noise come back in yours?
#2269 of 2927 Why doesn't my Terraza want to downshift
Sep 29, 2005 (5:51 pm)
I think this van is great and the power is OK but it seems to take a lot of pedal to make it downshift. When crusing at 40 mph or so and you want to accelerate I must "mash" the pedal to kick it into the next lower gear for it to move. The dealer says it's right on as per the factory. Is it just me or does this make it very difficult to drive. It really kills to marginal HP this vans has. Please help. matt
#2270 of 2927 Re: Why doesn't my Terraza want to downshift [matthewg]
Sep 29, 2005 (7:28 pm)
I've noticed ours is much more sluggish in downshifting than our 02 Silo and our 98 Venture. Not sure why, haven't complained about it to dealer, but definitely reluctant to downshift in comparison.
#2271 of 2927 Uplander Common Problems?
Oct 03, 2005 (12:22 pm)
I have had my Uplander for almost a year now and 21,000 miles. For the most part I am happy with the vehicle and it is much better than the Montana it replaced. Mine is actually a company car and about 10 people have them in my office and we are experiencing similar issues:
1. Major rattle in the passenger dash area, almost like the air bag is rattling.
2. Rattle in the suspension of the front end
3. Curling body side moldings - read others are having the same issue.
4. Dimming lights - alternator
5. Specific to my van, significant air leak in near the passenger lower windshield / dash area. The dash actually gets very cold in the winter months and we leave a small towel on the dash stop the draft.
Any one else experiencing 1, 2, or 5 or have a potential solution to them? I haven't taken it in yet as it is a major inconvience and it is a company car. But I will be shortly and would like to push the dealership in the right direction based on other's experiences.
#2272 of 2927 Terraza rattling
Oct 03, 2005 (5:09 pm)
I have problem #1 on my 05 Terraza. It seems like it's coming from the end vents on the pass. side. I don't seem to hear it all the time,so i'll just leave it for now. It's a lease and my wife drives the van mostly and it doesn't seem to bother her very much.
#2273 of 2927 Re: Uplander Common Problems? [grobinson2]
Oct 04, 2005 (5:21 pm)
I can relate.....rattle in passenger area is the air bag..mine bounces up and down with bumps..dealer has no idea how to fix this, the mouldings ..oh the mouldings after 3 attempts mine are 85%..they`ll be peeling again come this winter...the alternator, don`t even get me going on that one..I am on alternator #4, still no cure .....as for suspension rattle, not yet, or do I have an "air leak" can you say......
#2274 of 2927 Read this.....
Oct 04, 2005 (5:32 pm)
March 16, 2005
7496-2 Bath Road
Mississauga ON L4T 1L2
To Whom It May Concern:
SUBJECT:2005 RELAY VIN# 5(*&^&D181831
On or about January 15th my wife and I began the search for the perfect replacement vehicle, we were driving a 2003 Pontiac Vibe at the time but had outgrown its uses. We contemplated Honda Elements, Nissan X-trail and Hyundai Sante Fe, but after careful measuring and discussions we narrowed it down to the Chevrolet Equinox or one of the 2005 CSV’s ,we put together the available packages and configurations…to make a long story shorter we narrowed it down to the Saturn Relay 2 EWB.
On February 3rd we picked up our 2005 Saturn Relay from MotorCity Saturn of Whitby On, the staff and service were outstanding, now the story. On the night of Feb 4th we were driving home from a friend of ours in the country and noticed a flickering of the lights both dash and headlights, we did not notice this on delivery as it was a bright sunny day. I returned to the dealer the Monday morning to see if the dealer could fix this issue, they advised me they knew nothing about this issue, I went home did my research via internet surfing, voila! An advisory was issued on December 14 2004, it advised dealer service departments that some vehicles were exhibiting some flickering light issues, they did not know the cause, were looking into it..it went on to say the vehicle was safe to drive and that service techs were not attempt any fixes until told by GM.
On the next day I returned to the dealership and brought them up to speed on my findings, they checked there system and confirmed my findings…Today is now March 16th. I went and home and waited for a fix.
During the week we noticed the fuel gauge was being very erratic, we were not really sure how much fuel was in the vehicle until the Friday Morning when my wife phoned me at work to advise me the Van would not start and the DIC said “low fuel” when we parked it with just under what we perceived to be a ¼ tank….needless to say my mother –in-law arrived and drove my wife to the gas station to fill the Lawnmower gas can..still did not start....she phoned me back and I advised her to try rolling it onto the street, but be careful because she had limited brakes and steering..she didn`t make past the curb so my Mother-in-law (with Cane in Hand) and her pushed the rest of the way…after it leveled out it fired right up!!
The service department had no answer for my problem, so I took advantage of the Saturn Exchange policy in hopes that perhaps I had got a lemon….after much searching we found the identical vehicle with the DVD we originally wanted in Belleville via Kitchener .
On February 18th we received our exchange vehicle only to find out that it too had Flickering Lights, door mouldings peeling off and lower moulding coming off….just before we were about to leave we discovered the Power windows were inoperable. I again returned the next morning, were the Service department discovered the electrical harness had somehow disconnected in the door, they fixed this problem, ordered mouldings for my door and I advised them that I would make an appointment when they could supply me with a Courtesy vehicle.
Since that time the Flickering lights have progressively gotten worse to point were I have almost been cutoff by Tractor Trailers on the Highway assuming I was flashing them to say it was okay to change lanes…”Very Scary!!!!” on two separate occasion the starter has remained engaged after the engine has started, there is static interference when listening to DVD, coincides with engine RPM`s, a whining whistling with Engine RPM`s , and the fuel gauge is still as erratic as the first vehicle…..a service appointment was scheduled for Tuesday March 22nd 2005.
It is now September and we are on alternator #3, Radio #2, the DVD still buzzes, the mouldings are again beginning to peel now the headlight lens are spidering/cracking(one already being replaced)
I have since met with a District Service Manager..who basically looked right through me and said we`ll look into these issues and get back to you.
We are very dissatisfied and discouraged with this vehicle and the General Motors Corporation, for Gm to make statements that it is safe to drive while not really knowing why these vehicles are exhibiting these lighting issues is in my opinion very bold and dangerous, for Gm to allow these vehicles to leave the assembly plant in Doraville Georgia is unacceptable, for GM to still not have a fix for a potentially dangerous situation is irresponsible.
Until this problem is rectified I will not and would not refer anybody to purchasing a General Motors product, even if the problem is solved the sour taste in my mouth may keep me from ever giving General Motors a referral.
I guess until these problems are fixed I’ll try not to drive at night or in the rain, always keeps a minimum of ¼ tank of fuel,not park in sloped drive way, not use my DVD what else? At least the OnStar works..for now! This is a piece of 2005 Modern day technology, not a 1988 Ford Tempo.
I would appreciate your feedback as soon as possible.
cc: Transport Canada, Nhtsa, GMAC, John Carter LLB
#2275 of 2927 Re: Read this..... [hammy233]
Oct 06, 2005 (6:52 pm)
I thought I had a bad one. My Terraza had the same flickering light issues and a new alternator solved it...well almost. It does not happen but not as much. You mentioned the starter staying engaged and I was told by the dealer that he answers this question every day and it is normal for the starter to crank after the key is released. Apparently the signal that the engine is running is electronic and is not controlled by the release of the ignition. He sounded sincere and confident what ever that is worth. By biggest hangup is the lack of power when loaded up with 4 or more. For a vehicle designed to haul people, it really doesn't do it with well. Good luck...Matt
#2276 of 2927 Re: Read this..... [hammy233]
Oct 07, 2005 (12:15 pm)
Wow.. talk about a
Too bad. Saturn should take care of you though, I certainly hope so.