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personally by bigdaddycoats
Sep 28, 2004 (9:02 am)
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I don't think any vehicle over $20k should have wheel covers. My $15k Focus didn't have them.
As far as the covers the Terraza had, they did look ok (better than the wheel covers on my brothers Camry)but I could still tell they were cheap plastic.
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by ateixeira
Sep 28, 2004 (9:10 am)
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I hate the ones the pop off.
 
Some are bolted on and I bet a lot of people don't care much as long as they get those.
 
I'd just shop for a set of alloys anyway.
 
-juice
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Standard DVD ?? by samnoe
Sep 28, 2004 (8:41 pm)
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I read somewhere that the Buick version (if not all 4 of the vans) will have the DVD player as STANDARD (that means to me, paying standard another $1500).
 
Yikes! When will the manufacturers start realizing not to do this? Don't they know that many people do NOT want their kids watching DVD all day long? or that so many people don't want to pay for it? Or that many others want to buy their own aftermarket system??
 
I wrote it once in the Sienna board, and I will repeat it here once again: In my opinion, the following should always be stand-alone options in ANY minivan, regardless of trim model: 1) Navigation system; 2) DVD player; 3) leather seating; and 4) power sliding doors and power rear hatch (on minivans).
 
All of the 4 features above you can find thousands of people do NOT want them in their vehicle. So don't force it on them.
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by a_l_hubcaps
Sep 28, 2004 (9:32 pm)
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Hey guys, you can order alloys on the Terraza if you want them. They're only around $325 extra. I wish people would stop demanding trivial standard features on cars that jack up the price, particularly for those of us who would never buy a car with alloy wheels (maybe not too many of those here, but trust me, we're out there). Having basic safety equipment, A/C, etc. standard is OK, but there's no reason why everything in the world should be standard, provided the deletions are reflected in a lower MSRP.
 
-Andrew L
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And by the way... by a_l_hubcaps
Sep 28, 2004 (9:35 pm)
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I'm not just a steel wheels troll. I agree with the post above regarding DVD systems and power sliding doors. The power doors sound like a feature that is just waiting to break as soon as the vehicle comes off warranty, and I don't even want to know what the replacement cost on the electrical components is.
 
Last time my mom shopped for a car, she looked at a Windstar, and the salesperson first showed her one and made a big deal out of how it came with a DVD system at no extra cost. Her response? "I won't buy a car with a television in it. Show me the next model down."
 
-Andrew L
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Re: [a_l_hubcaps] by bigdaddycoats
Sep 29, 2004 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: a_l_hubcaps (Sep 28, 2004 9:32 pm)

Certain brands should not have wheel covers. That was my point. A luxury brand should not have them. If that is truly where Buick is trying to position themselves, then all of their products need to reflect that image.
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by ateixeira
Sep 29, 2004 (6:09 am)
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Makes sense for the Chevy version to have steelies, but I agree a Buick should have alloys standard, just as a Lexus would.
 
Marketing cars is a funny thing. If they figure 80% of the customers want something, it's probably more cost effective to just make it standard. Economies of scale and simplicity on the assembly line make it cheaper to do it that way.
 
-juice
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ateixeira by dan165
Sep 29, 2004 (6:34 pm)
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The Beemer I saw was very new, 3 yrs old max.
 
Alloys should be standard on all Buicks. Covers are ok for Chev/Pontiac and Saturn.
 
DVD is standard on all U.S. models from what I have read here. Apparently not so here.
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by a_l_hubcaps
Sep 29, 2004 (9:33 pm)
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dan165-
 
BMW offered factory wheel covers on the 3-series in the US through the 2000 model year. They may have continued to do so later in Canada. Many BMWs in Germany still have wheel covers -- they have cheaper models there. Also, BMW dealers in wintry areas offer factory snow tire packages that include OEM BMW wheel covers.
 
Regarding Buick stuff: I guess what this comes down to is, I don't really believe that Buick is going to compete with Lexus. The Terraza starts below $29K -- after the inevitable rebates, you will be able to get one for around $25K. What Lexus family wagon is even in that ballpark? Most RXs sell in the $40K range. If Buick comes out with a full-on luxury crossover that costs that much, then I guess it's fair to say that steel wheels would be uncompetetive in the segment. But that's not what the Terraza is. It's a Chevy with extra chrome and leather seats. These four vans are not going to sell on the basis of true product differentiation, the way the Malibu and G6 do. Unlike the Epsilon cars, which really do have distinct personalities, it's obvious to anyone that this is basically one van with a choice of grilles. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
-Andrew L
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by ateixeira
Sep 30, 2004 (6:34 am)
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Maybe Canada sells a lesser-equipped Bimmer?
 
I think they make 316i models for some countries, at least they used to.
 
I asked the Saturn dealer about the DVD and they insisted it would be an option on all models. Other sources say it'll be standard even on base models. Which is it?
 
Buick will try to eventually compete with Lexus. I don't think this face-lifted van counts. Though they are quiet-tuning all the cars and trucks with extra insulation. Still, it takes more than that.
 
-juice

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