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Saw another by bigdaddycoats
Sep 28, 2004 (4:36 am)
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Saw a Terraza at the post office this morning. Looked pretty good, except it had wheel covers (looked just like the ones from the Rendezvous). What the heck are they thinking?? Any vehicle that starts in the high 20's needs real wheels, not plastic covers. Especially if Buick is trying to be an american Lexus.
 
I really need to get a digital camera.
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actually... by dan165
Sep 28, 2004 (5:17 am)
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I saw a base BMW 3-series with plastic wheel covers the other day so I guess it's not unheard of in the "luxury brand" arena. That said, Buick should not go there. I think the LaCrosse with have covers on the base model also.
 
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by ateixeira
Sep 28, 2004 (6:00 am)
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Lutz warned us he'd do that. Basically he wanted to cut some costs for things that he thought customers would not notice, like seldom-used gadgets and thicker carpets.
 
That flies in the face of Buick's strategy, though. You can't cut costs and compete with Lexus, you have to add content.
 
Toyota could cut costs, because that only made room for Lexus to come in and basically offer those things Toyota was cutting.
 
I don't think Bimmers have come with wheel covers for a while. You probably saw a decade old 318i, something like that.
 
-juice
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personally by bigdaddycoats
Sep 28, 2004 (9:02 am)
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I don't think any vehicle over $20k should have wheel covers. My $15k Focus didn't have them.
As far as the covers the Terraza had, they did look ok (better than the wheel covers on my brothers Camry)but I could still tell they were cheap plastic.
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by ateixeira
Sep 28, 2004 (9:10 am)
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I hate the ones the pop off.
 
Some are bolted on and I bet a lot of people don't care much as long as they get those.
 
I'd just shop for a set of alloys anyway.
 
-juice
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Standard DVD ?? by samnoe
Sep 28, 2004 (8:41 pm)
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I read somewhere that the Buick version (if not all 4 of the vans) will have the DVD player as STANDARD (that means to me, paying standard another $1500).
 
Yikes! When will the manufacturers start realizing not to do this? Don't they know that many people do NOT want their kids watching DVD all day long? or that so many people don't want to pay for it? Or that many others want to buy their own aftermarket system??
 
I wrote it once in the Sienna board, and I will repeat it here once again: In my opinion, the following should always be stand-alone options in ANY minivan, regardless of trim model: 1) Navigation system; 2) DVD player; 3) leather seating; and 4) power sliding doors and power rear hatch (on minivans).
 
All of the 4 features above you can find thousands of people do NOT want them in their vehicle. So don't force it on them.
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by a_l_hubcaps
Sep 28, 2004 (9:32 pm)
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Hey guys, you can order alloys on the Terraza if you want them. They're only around $325 extra. I wish people would stop demanding trivial standard features on cars that jack up the price, particularly for those of us who would never buy a car with alloy wheels (maybe not too many of those here, but trust me, we're out there). Having basic safety equipment, A/C, etc. standard is OK, but there's no reason why everything in the world should be standard, provided the deletions are reflected in a lower MSRP.
 
-Andrew L
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And by the way... by a_l_hubcaps
Sep 28, 2004 (9:35 pm)
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I'm not just a steel wheels troll. I agree with the post above regarding DVD systems and power sliding doors. The power doors sound like a feature that is just waiting to break as soon as the vehicle comes off warranty, and I don't even want to know what the replacement cost on the electrical components is.
 
Last time my mom shopped for a car, she looked at a Windstar, and the salesperson first showed her one and made a big deal out of how it came with a DVD system at no extra cost. Her response? "I won't buy a car with a television in it. Show me the next model down."
 
-Andrew L
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Re: [a_l_hubcaps] by bigdaddycoats
Sep 29, 2004 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: a_l_hubcaps (Sep 28, 2004 9:32 pm)

Certain brands should not have wheel covers. That was my point. A luxury brand should not have them. If that is truly where Buick is trying to position themselves, then all of their products need to reflect that image.
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by ateixeira
Sep 29, 2004 (6:09 am)
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Makes sense for the Chevy version to have steelies, but I agree a Buick should have alloys standard, just as a Lexus would.
 
Marketing cars is a funny thing. If they figure 80% of the customers want something, it's probably more cost effective to just make it standard. Economies of scale and simplicity on the assembly line make it cheaper to do it that way.
 
-juice

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