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by dan165
Sep 20, 2004 (5:08 am)
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While I agree these vans are not going to be the best, no one here (or anywhere out side GM) has even driven one so I'd like to know how some people are so sure these vans are so terrible?
 
I think the Terazza and Saturn versions are a waste of time, but over all these vans offer things not found elsewhere and not everyone wants a monster van.
 
The me too styled Freestar has been a flop but at least these vans have distinctive style and should get good mileage. Who knows..
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Size by hammen2
Sep 20, 2004 (8:24 am)
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I don't have a clue if the vans are smaller than the previous ones.
 
I do know the previous ones were narrower than competitors, because, for some bizarre reason, GM turned engineering of the vans over to Opel, and they needed them to be narrower to fit European streets. Of course, the vans were a huge flop over there and didn't last more than a couple of model years. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
 
--Robert
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Freestar by jchan2
Sep 20, 2004 (1:09 pm)
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By the way, even though the Freestar's styling is distinctive, the fuel economy isn't. It gets a low low low 15 MPG.
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A product by tamu2002
Sep 20, 2004 (6:27 pm)
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has got to stand out in one way or another to be successful. The Caravan twins are versitle; the Quest is a rule breaking pineer with standard side airbags and killer looks (maybe not for some folks); the Freestar has side curtain; the Odyssey is...well the Odyssey; and the Sienna is a conservative Quest. What do the new GM vans have that truly stands out and sticks to the shopper's mind?
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by vanman1
Sep 20, 2004 (6:48 pm)
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Selling points of the new GM vans
 
Standard DVD
Standard MP3 player
Available Phat noise sound system
Standard On Star
Over head rail system
Available remote start
Available AWD
Fuel economy
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SUV "look"
 
Nope, like someone said these aren't the best vans on the planet, but they should drive very well, have nice interiors and appeal to a segment looking for good value. The look is not main stream which will help it stick out in the market.
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by dan165
Sep 21, 2004 (5:28 am)
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Lots of different things appeal to lots of people for different reasons. The vans should sell about the same, there isn't going to be any big jump up here. GM needs an all new van but given their limited resources these days, this is likely their best option for now. That said, they could have got the same result and saved some money by just updating the old vans rather than re-name them and spawn a Saturn.
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by ateixeira
Sep 21, 2004 (12:30 pm)
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Fuel economy might be one main competitive advantage. That plus the DVD.
 
The list above seems pretty complete.
 
Add to that "Huge Rebates coming soon".
 
-juice
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and by jchan2
Sep 21, 2004 (1:15 pm)
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GM Card points, year end bonus cash, GMAC financing bonus cash, plus cashback, for a possible drive out the door price of around maybe seven grand off, before negotiating?
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by ateixeira
Sep 21, 2004 (1:19 pm)
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Let's just say "acquisition cost" and leave it at that.
 
All those things lower the price but they'll also lower residuals. In 2 years an Odyssey will be worth $8000 more in resale, so your TCO may actually be similar.
 
-juice
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by dan165
Sep 23, 2004 (5:19 am)
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"In 2 years an Odyssey will be worth $8000 more in resale"
 
Since it costs about that much more new I would certainly hope so.

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