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#1443 of 2868 Dealers by samnoe Sep 19, 2004 (4:33 pm)
When will these new sports van arrive at dealers?
#1444 of 2868 power by tamu2002 Sep 19, 2004 (7:43 pm)
I agree that GM should up the ante on HP. But in reality one probably can't feel much difference among all these vans. I drove the Quest, didn't feel that strong pull I expected from its 240 hp engine. The old Venture has a very good acceleration number. Coupled to its good fuel economy, I don't see a reason to abandon it for a "high tech" and "new" OHC engine, other than to shut you guys up   I'm extremely disappointed however, to see the comments on the new vans' small size. Heck, why does GM think people want mini vans? I already have a sedan that I can't fit all our junk in!
#1445 of 2868 Size? by ronsmith38 Sep 20, 2004 (4:39 am)
If the new GM vans are based on the old vans, why are they smaller? My 00 Silo is about the same size inside as an 00 Ody. I compared them back then.
#1446 of 2868 by dan165 Sep 20, 2004 (5:08 am)
While I agree these vans are not going to be the best, no one here (or anywhere out side GM) has even driven one so I'd like to know how some people are so sure these vans are so terrible?   I think the Terazza and Saturn versions are a waste of time, but over all these vans offer things not found elsewhere and not everyone wants a monster van.   The me too styled Freestar has been a flop but at least these vans have distinctive style and should get good mileage. Who knows..
#1447 of 2868 Size by hammen2 Sep 20, 2004 (8:24 am)
I don't have a clue if the vans are smaller than the previous ones.   I do know the previous ones were narrower than competitors, because, for some bizarre reason, GM turned engineering of the vans over to Opel, and they needed them to be narrower to fit European streets. Of course, the vans were a huge flop over there and didn't last more than a couple of model years. Dumb, dumb, dumb.   --Robert
#1448 of 2868 Freestar by jchan2 Sep 20, 2004 (1:09 pm)
By the way, even though the Freestar's styling is distinctive, the fuel economy isn't. It gets a low low low 15 MPG.
#1449 of 2868 A product by tamu2002 Sep 20, 2004 (6:27 pm)
has got to stand out in one way or another to be successful. The Caravan twins are versitle; the Quest is a rule breaking pineer with standard side airbags and killer looks (maybe not for some folks); the Freestar has side curtain; the Odyssey is...well the Odyssey; and the Sienna is a conservative Quest. What do the new GM vans have that truly stands out and sticks to the shopper's mind?
#1450 of 2868 by vanman1 Sep 20, 2004 (6:48 pm)
Selling points of the new GM vans   Standard DVD Standard MP3 player Available Phat noise sound system Standard On Star Over head rail system Available remote start Available AWD Fuel economy and SUV "look"   Nope, like someone said these aren't the best vans on the planet, but they should drive very well, have nice interiors and appeal to a segment looking for good value. The look is not main stream which will help it stick out in the market.
#1451 of 2868 by dan165 Sep 21, 2004 (5:28 am)
Lots of different things appeal to lots of people for different reasons. The vans should sell about the same, there isn't going to be any big jump up here. GM needs an all new van but given their limited resources these days, this is likely their best option for now. That said, they could have got the same result and saved some money by just updating the old vans rather than re-name them and spawn a Saturn.
#1452 of 2868 by ateixeira Sep 21, 2004 (12:30 pm)
Fuel economy might be one main competitive advantage. That plus the DVD.   The list above seems pretty complete.   Add to that "Huge Rebates coming soon".   -juice

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