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I don't think that has happened to any GM vehicle since the early 70s, with perhaps a few rare exceptions. And a van? Residuals remain quite strong for the Ody, horrible for the current GM vans. Actually I agree with the poster above that a used one might be a bargain in a couple of years. I tend to keep cars for about 7 years, I think there is still an appreciable difference in residual values when you compare a Venture to an Odyssey, likely as much as the difference you paid when they were new (perhaps more). -juice |
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| I used to keep cars for ten years, 150,000 miles. Now, they're traded in at around 100,000 miles, regardless of age. I just get tired of a car after living with it for 100,000 miles. | |
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Replying to: dan165 (Sep 06, 2004 6:31 pm) Agreed, the deal still matters. I think Ford and GM are set to sell about 100K minivans each this year, thanks to the hefty rebates.
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Replying to: starlightmica (Sep 11, 2004 8:50 pm) |
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| Honda gets more money for their vans because they have better quality materials, better features and a better engine. GM was trying to get the same money for less product so of course they have to slap on the big incentives. The new vans are better and close up the gap a bit. Further, MSRP prices have fallen and content has gone up which means they won't have to discount as much in theory. I guess we will have to see how the vans come out in the fall. | |
| Just walk into a Honda dealer- you don't see a lot of Civic Value Packages, Odyssey LXs, Pilot LXs, and base CR-Vs with 2WD. | |
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I just thought I would let everyone know that I got to take a quick look at a Relay on Sunday. They had a loaded one at the Columbus Zoo for Saturn owners day. I don't own a Saturn or any domestic GM vehicle ('99 Saab 9-5 wgn), but I walked away relatively impressed with the product. Here's a list of some things I liked and some of my concerns. Exterior: Styling was handsome enough for a minivan, FUV,...polished 17" wheels were nice. It's smaller than competitors which could be a good thing or bad thing depending on your needs. Interior: Materials quality is definitely better than the current GM vans, but not quite as nice as my Saab. No more Fisher Price looking radio etc... The plood still looks like plood but it's not bad. They have those folding cargo trays in the 1st and 2nd rows which is nice. Those seats were felt comfortable. Plenty of storage space around the passengers. The 3rd row legroom looked fine for kids, tight for adults. I did not sit back there however. There seemed to be a cargo organizer installed behind the 3rd row bench which limited cargo capacity and made a higher liftover. Vans with magic seats have the extra foot of depth when the seat is used. I don't know if this tray is an option. A plus is that the seats do fold completely flat. Missing features: no power tailgate, and 2nd row 3 passenger bench (Uplander/Montana to have this?) Overall, it appears to be worth a test drive. It might be a little small if you have a large, younger family: 2+ kids in carseats, strollers, etc. It would probably be the perfect size if you had 2 older children. Sorry about the long post. Matt
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Great post. Glad to hear the van looked pretty good. The dash is the only big down fall of our 2004 Montnana so if that's fixed I think that is a good thing. The van shouldn't be much smaller, it's just a little more narrow than most vans. |
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| I have seen a lot of articles as of late giving GM a lot of credit for putting out something a little different, a van with an SUV look. Judging by a few looks inside, it sounds like it's not as bad as some people were making it out to be. | |
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There certainly is nothing like a reskin and the marketing folks conjuring up a faux category, lol. Even for the budget conscious, Im not sure a compelling reason exists to buy this minivan. The new Ody and Sienna will be dynamically far superior, and the 2005 DCX minis more versatile and similarly priced, and the overweight Kia Sedona is still cheaper. Somebody fill in the competitive advantage, because Im missing it.... ~alpha |
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