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More than 1/3 of the Oddys I see driving around are base models with plastic wheel covers. Just because the lot does not have them, doesn't mean everyone is getting top end vans. The vast majority of families can't afford that.
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I still don't think that matters a whole lot. Odyssey has substance, what's inside is what counts, powertrain especially. Sprinkling a CSV moniker and nice alloys on a GM van don't really make it a more substantive vehicle. -juice
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 07, 2004 7:26 am) |
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Last I heard it was 1-2%, so no, there aren't all that many. -juice |
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New GM vans have a new power train? Oddys are probably going to be the class leader but it comes with a price as it does with the Sienna. Chrysler, Mazda, Ford and GM will offer better value for families on more of a budget. I don't see this changing. I know my sister in law's family bought a Caravan because they could not afford a Sienna / Oddy. I'm sure they are not alone. |
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I have owned many vehicles of many brands and experienced the best reliability with Toyota. I now have a 2002 Chrysler T&C, a 2001 Chevrolet Blazer LT 4WD, and a 1993 Ford F-150 4 WD. Toyota vehicles also cost the most for parts and service. I can afford a new Odyssey or Sienna but the used 2002 Chrysler T&C offered me more nice features for half the money of a new, base 2005 Odyssey LX. I got the 2001 Chevrolet Blazer LT in 2001 and traded in a 1999 Chevrolet Tracker (Suzuki) because it was a good deal. I see no reason to purchase any vehicle just because CR's biased opinion rates it as their "Best Buy".
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Replying to: hansienna (Sep 08, 2004 12:52 pm) Good point! But unfortunately like many other things in life, people tend to let others' opinions dictate what they do. Well, they're spending their own money, who can blame them. |
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I see one solid reason - resale values. If you buy new, you make up the extra money you paid when you sell it, and then some. I bet if you did the math you'd find in some situations the Honda/Toyota vans actually cost less. Someone here bought a '99 Ody and then sold it 2 years later for what he paid, 100% resale, because demand was so high. Free van for 2 years. -juice
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I don't think CR is biased but I do think their methodology and data collection does have flaws. Keep in mind also, the difference between the most reliable vehicle and number 10 is likely only a few problems per 100 at the most. Buy what you like in most cases I always say, in the end even a Honda or Toyota could give you trouble. |
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| They're decent, but nothing special. If you're looking for a great deal on a decent car, shop the various GM brands. They'll give you an OK car with a massive rebate. (some models) | |
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