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by ateixeira
Sep 02, 2004 (11:25 am)
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265hp, 20/28 mpg, run flats, I dunno, looks good to me...
 
-juice
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Re: [ateixeira] by jchan2
Sep 02, 2004 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 02, 2004 11:25 am)

I think the Odyssey has 255 horsepower, not 265. But Honda says the Touring model has a tweaked suspension compared with the EX-L model.
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Re: [vanman1] by samnoe
Sep 02, 2004 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Sep 02, 2004 11:10 am)

"That said, the interior of the Ody sure beats even the new GM vans from what I can see..."
 
Not to my opinion. I think the new Ody's interior will be far behind any other van in terms of design. Sure, quality and fit-n-finish will be top notch as always, but design??
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by dan165
Sep 03, 2004 (5:29 am)
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I like the interior of the Oddy, but of course the top of the line dash with a NAV is what you see in the pictures. The exterior is much the same. The DOD feature is an option, not standard. That means all the base models (probably 50%+) have the same 3.5L as the old Oddy. Lots of hype for the most part unless you pay $$ for the cool stuff. Better off getting a clear out 04 Oddy, they have slapped incentives on those now.
 
Should be interesting to see how the GM vans are in comparison. Seems like most new vans are evolutions of the last generation vs. revolutions. Not sure why GM changed the names though.
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Sienna fuel economy by nematode
Sep 03, 2004 (9:28 am)
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I cannot comment on the fuel economy of the FWD version but I can tell you that the AWD version of the Sienna is nowhere near EPA estimates. Its 11-14city 17-20highway.
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by ateixeira
Sep 03, 2004 (9:54 am)
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I stand corrected. Still, we're looking at 200hp on these GM vans.
 
Ody EX-L and up get DoD, but you'd be surprised, most Odys come loaded up. That's how people want Hondas. A dealer had 100 Pilots and only 7 of them were the base LX model, for instance.
 
-juice
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Loaded Up by jchan2
Sep 03, 2004 (6:44 pm)
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The Hondas are better deals loaded up compared to the Toyota- how can you get a loaded up Toyota Highlander Limited for $33K, including a Navigation System? But I personally think the Toyotas are better deals at the low end- Sienna CEs have a lower price and more or less the same equipment as the 04 Odyssey LX.
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by rctennis3811
Sep 04, 2004 (8:00 pm)
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There are exceptions. Take the Sienna for instance. People are paying upwards of 35K for loaded XLEs and XLE Limiteds because they are so much better than the competition in terms of fit/finish, feature content, and overall execution. Plus, the Sienna has one of the lowest days-on-lot rating. I expect the same for the Odyssey - people will pay the price for such an exceptional product.
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And by jchan2
Sep 05, 2004 (5:40 am)
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the other vans (Freestar, Uplander, Caravan, Quest, Sedona) will be there to take the orders of those who are frustrated with waiting for an Odyssey or dealing with a Toyota dealer.
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CR preview by samnoe
Sep 05, 2004 (4:26 pm)
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Consumer Reports this month (Oct) previews all models new for 2005. Of course, one of them includes GM's new crossover vans. Here is CR's take:
 
"The new styling of these freshened GM minivans can't disguise that they are seven-year-old minivans that are not at the top of their category. The same V6 engine (however) does a good job in the Chevy Malibu..."
 
They forget that the new Odyssey will be built on the current platform, too, which is 6-years old. However, this platform has been rated at the top of the minivans, so it's OK for Honda to keep using it.

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