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There's a no-haggle dealer locally, and what I generally find is that domestic vans fall in around $22-25k. So stripped ones aren't necessarily cheaper, but loaded ones generally are. At least from what I've seen. -juice |
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| WOW. What a great deal on a so-so van. | |
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You can't get a 2-3 years old used Ody or Sienna for that much. -juice |
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Replying to: jchan2 (Aug 06, 2003 11:48 am)
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Replying to: darnell89 (Aug 23, 2004 2:09 pm) |
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| ...won't have the plastic body panels. Lutz hates 'em, as that's the purported reason why they can't get the panel gaps closer. | |
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From Edmunds.com Long Term Sienna test, which in my opinion, states pretty clearly that the Sienna is used almost exclusively for around town driving, a killer of MPG: "Outside of a few road trips, most of our driving time has been spent inside the city limits. This includes numerous trips to the grocery store, toy store and local shopping malls, outings which have provided ample opportunities to load and unload kids, groceries and the occasional Toys 'R Us haul." http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/toyota/sienna/100257809/roadtesta- rticle.html?articleId=100603&editorialpage=page003&tid=ed- munds.h..wkedmunds.longterm.3.* From Edmunds.com Minvan comparison (which shows the Sienna in a mix of city/hwy, and in comparison to other minivans): "However, the Sienna does offer the best EPA fuel economy estimates at 19 city/27 highway, and over the course of a week the Toyota was consistently delivering at least 23 mpg in combined city and highway driving and often topping out at 24 mpg. Compare this to the Ford Freestar that typically offered no better than 18 mpg." http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/101676/page007- .html (That one was driven in the real world, too). ~alpha |
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| Facts: 2004 Sienna has NOT delivered gas mileage as high as either the 1999 Odyssey EX or the 2001 Grand Caravan ES when each was driven by Edmunds employees in a long term test. Just go back and read the Edmunds results for the Sienna, Odyssey and Grand Caravan for the facts. | |
| The $19500 CDN (US $14700) cash price Freestar has 4 wheel discs/ABS, CD stereo, 4.2L V6, A/C, keyless entry ect. I think the only glaring thing missing for most would be cruise control. It's a steal of a deal and you get a full warranty also. Chevy is now advertising a Value Van for cash price of $20200 CDN but it's a short wheel base and has no ABS. | |
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Let's see how the EPA rates the new GM vans and also how they compare head-to-head in the car mags' new reviews. Sienna has done well in some cases, they had the best CR average for instance. Edmunds' data seems contradictory so I wouldn't conclude anything based on that. -juice |
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