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Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac Montana, Saturn Relay, Buick Terraza, Pontiac Montana SV6, Van
Jun 23, 2004 (8:01 pm)
Well, now I've seen the new Buick advertising on television and guess what ? - they're showing a BLACK 2005 Terraza ("Buick - we're not just a CAR company anymore...!). Of course it's just like GM to tease and then not produce this color, which is the ONLY color I will buy. Quest did not get my sale for 2004 because they did not make a black one, only smoke gray.
This will still be one very COOL 2005 Oldsmobile Silhouette when I'm done with it!
Jun 24, 2004 (8:51 am)
For a moment I thought I was on the new Ody board, but anyway, where can I find the picture, in the future vehicle section?
Jun 24, 2004 (8:53 am)
Never mind, I found it. My first reaction was "Yuck". I hope it looks better in person.
Jun 24, 2004 (3:15 pm)
It looked good to me. But I think the van would look even better with a set of Alloy wheels.
Jun 24, 2004 (7:20 pm)
You asked about the model years...The CSVs will be 2005 model year, because they will be available before the end of calendar year 2004. GM is doing the weird model year thing with some of their other new intros, too. For example, there is a 2005 Cavalier, to be replaced by the 2005 Cobalt at the end of the calendar year. I guess they are trying to get themselves back on a normal debut cycle, instead of having all their new models come out in the summer.
The Sienna you describe (CE w/safety package) is indeed a great deal. Too bad they seem to be vaporware here in northern NJ. They are theoretically orderable in this region, but my local dealership always has a lot full of XLE AWDs with $34,000 stickers and no CEs at all. I got my mom looking at vans again the other day, and she was not interested in anything that expensive. But at least she liked the Sienna's basic design, whereas her reaction to a 2004 Quest SE was, "$37,000 for this crap?"
By the way, we have a pretty big GM card rebate built up, so I'll get her to look at the CSVs when they come out. We might end up with one just because of price, though I'd wait to see how they fare in the crash tests before buying, since the current GM vans perform terribly.
Jun 25, 2004 (6:21 am)
With my zip code, the Toyota web site will not even let you build the CE 7 w/safety package. I have read that usuallly means that combo is not being shipped (ordered) into the area. And checking dealer sites, have to go north of $28,000 to get the equipment. And someone else has posted that the high end cars are not discounted as much.
Jun 25, 2004 (7:03 am)
That Honda looks decent, the headlights are *huge* thought. They still didn't hide the sliding tracks, either. But it's decent overall.
Besides, styling just isn't that important in this class. I don't think any of them look sexy.
The local no-haggle dealer has 9 Siennas, 3 are over $35k but all the others are under $30k, and one is even under $25k. You can find them if you look.
Jun 25, 2004 (7:08 pm)
The strategy with finding the right Sienna is calling all the dealers you know to find the one you want and look on eBay too.
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Jun 28, 2004 (7:19 am)
I've seen some of those base Siennas and Oddys. Nothing like paying US $26K for a vehicle with plastic wheel covers, yak!
Yes, they are good but haven driven the current GM vans as rentals also, I think the new interior and upgraded mechanicals should be more competitive than some here are implying. I saw the Buick ad and the Terazza looked pretty slick.
Jun 28, 2004 (7:21 am)
More like $22-23k if you follow the "What did you pay" threads here.
And at least Honda's wheel covers are bolted on. So they won't fall off when you hit a pot hole, LOL.