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pete6 by qbrozen
Aug 02, 2006 (8:42 am)
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ok, so you are then actually paying $1k over invoice, since they are using $1k to pay off your current lease.
 
I'm not the least bit surprised they are throwing in the screen, in this case. They are still making decent money on the deal.
 
And I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all. Sounds like you are down to maybe $600-$700 over invoice at this point. That's not bad.
 
I don't know why a limited doesn't come with the rear video screen, but it doesn't. That's a la carte car building for ya.
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You get what you pay for. by soch
Aug 02, 2006 (9:54 am)
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Have you ever imagined why Chrysler has been selling cars under invoice?
 
I think they bloat the price (MSRP) and then try to put a sort of "clearance" sale to lure the buyers.
 
Back in March we bought an AWD with 26 U package for around 2K below invoice.
 
I think the interior is so cheap. The carpet is so thin. It's already started loosing fiber. The driver seat has a major design flaw & are very uncomfortable. The power is less for the huge weight (Oddesey van beat the PAC in a grp trip). I am very disappointed.
 
We should have stuck to our original budget of 30-35K and bought an MDX or something else instead of getting lured to these sales.
 
The good part is that paying less than 29K for PAC makes it physcologically easier to sell it off in a year.
 
I am getting a feeling this is a high maintenance/easily degradable car and we would be better off selling it within an year.
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Re: You get what you pay for. [soch] by qbrozen
Aug 02, 2006 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: soch (Aug 02, 2006 9:54 am)

Opinions are like .... I'll leave it at that.
 
Anyway, cheap interior is FAR from a Pacifica trait. Speaking of a Honda, we traded our Pilot for the Pac. The Pac is WAY more comfortable and FAR HIGHER quality interior. We were sold on the Pac specifically because it feels much more luxurious than the Pilot.
 
However, I will agree that the powertrain is not suited to the vehicle. As I've said many many times before, I don't want more HP from the vehicle, but a slightly smoother engine and a 5-speed tranny would help tremendously.
 
By the way, when does the high maintenance start? We've got 10k miles and have only paid for an oil change at this point. At least we won't have to pay to change the differential fluid every 15k miles like we did in the Pilot.
 
As far as price ... IIRC, ours was $26k and change for one with an MSRP over $34k.
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Re: You get what you pay for. [qbrozen] by soch
Aug 02, 2006 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Aug 02, 2006 10:40 am)

Ok, that's good to know that PAC won't require mechanical maintenance that often as a Pilot.
 
There are things which you see when you drive that makes you disheartended. For e.g. it would be foolish to replace the cheap carpet in our new PAC with a newer carpet. The sound quality is also not great like the high end cars. Most of the shiny surface is cheap plastic that can sratch easily. I am so afraid taking the PAC to a Car wash.
 
When we strarted looking at PAC we thought we were buying a high-end car at throw away prices. But we were mistaken. PAC can't compete with MDX or Lexus. I sat in my friend's Lexus. Man, it did feel luxurious.
 
$26K for $34K - qbrozen, proves my point. $6-7K is unheard in other high end cars.
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Re: You get what you pay for. [soch] by qbrozen
Aug 02, 2006 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: soch (Aug 02, 2006 11:32 am)

heck, that should all be obvious. If you pay more for a Lexus, I sure hope you would get more, no doubt. No, the Pac can't compete with Lexus, nor does it try. An RX330 equipped like my PAC carries an MSRP near $44k, and that doesn't even have a 3rd row. (TMV is $4k below that, interestingly enough, which isn't a far cry from the $6k off you think these higher-end vehicles don't offer.) A comparable MDX is $42k msrp and $36,8 TMV .... hmmm... looks suspiciously close to $6k off to me.
 
Hmmm... shiny surfaces?? I don't think I have any of those in my Pac, other than the simulated wood trim. All the controls are matte black and the dash is a soft touch vinyl kinda thing ... I'm not sure where this easily scratched shiny stuff is you are referring to. Maybe in a lower model? I'm not sure. I don't recall seeing any of that on the base FWD one they gave me as a service loaner either, though.
 
Even at full MSRP, my PAC was priced more in line with the Pilot, honestly, than the MDX. MSRP for a Pilot with RES is $33,995, which is right near what the MSRP on our PAC was. Yet, in the Pac, we get heated seats in the 2nd row, memory seating in the front, power adjustable pedals, power liftgate, and probably other things I'm not even considering. Oh, by the way, the Pilot is going for $5k off sticker, as well.
 
Seems to me you are comparing the PAC in the wrong group of SUVs.
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Re: You get what you pay for. [soch] by b25nut
Aug 02, 2006 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: soch (Aug 02, 2006 11:32 am)

"PAC can't compete with MDX or Lexus". That statement can't be farther from the truth! My wife has an '06 RX-330. The Lexus has three features that I would rate better than the Pacifica: 1) The leather has stitching, which gives it a more luxurious look; 2) It has a back-up camera; 3)the transmission gives smoother, but not faster, acceleration. The Pacifica beats it on just about everything else: Far superior ergonomics, a much easier to use naviagation system, much better brakes, lower CG for better handling. Electronic options on the Lexus have to be set by the dealer, you can't change them yourself if you change your mind. The Lexus does not have behind the steering wheel audio controls, the tires are good for only 30,000 miles, it requires 92 grade gas (which just about negates it's mpg advantage). The RX-330's oil filter is hidden by a cover plate that is not mentioned in the Owner's Manual, which has minimal information since the factory wants all work done by the dealer. I could go on and on.
I also had a bad first impression of the Pacifica's thin carpet but it has proven to be very durable, along with the entire interior. With 54,000 miles on it, my Pacifica looks almost brand new, inside and out. Soch, you must not have your driver's seat adjusted correctly. Mine is the most comfortable that I have ever driven, with my body having no aches or pains after hours on the road.
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Re: You get what you pay for. [b25nut] by qbrozen
Aug 03, 2006 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: b25nut (Aug 02, 2006 2:20 pm)

Its nice to get a comparison from an owner of both.
 
Makes the extra money for the Lexus seem wasted after all.
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Re: You get what you pay for. [qbrozen] by soch
Aug 03, 2006 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Aug 03, 2006 6:27 am)

If someone can help me with the seat adjustment, I would be willing to overlook other problems in PAC.
 
Again, the seat is not upright enough for me. In some cars, the back of the seat can almost become verticle (which is not what I want).
 
I wish I could raise the seat as much as possible & still keep the back close to verticle. The back just stops at an angle. I will try to measure the angle and do a comparision angle with my Impala & post it here.
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Re: You get what you pay for. [soch] by qbrozen
Aug 03, 2006 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: soch (Aug 03, 2006 12:21 pm)

That's odd. Sounds like maybe something is wrong with it??
 
I know my wife sits very upright in it.
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Re: You get what you pay for. [soch] by b25nut
Aug 03, 2006 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: soch (Aug 03, 2006 12:21 pm)

Soch, do you have the 10-way or 8-way adjustment option? With those, the whole seat can be tilted forward along with the tilt adjustment for just the seatback.

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