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You are in the Acura MDX
What is this discussion about?
#536 of 1262 Buzz, Waiting Lists
Sep 29, 2006 (2:30 pm)
Two things kept my wife and I from buying an MDX in 2001: the obnoxious dealers insisting on full price plus add-ons, take it or leave it, and the plastic below the glove box cutting into her long legs, with inadequate seat adjustment range. Instead, we ordered a 2002 Mercury Mountaineer V8 which was delivered in September of 2001.
The MDX is certainly worth a long hard look, but there are plenty of alternatives. For me, the main alternatives are the Ford Edge and its platform-mate, the Mazda CX-9. The Mazda CX-9 has more space than the Edge, since it has a 3rd row, and more fancy features, such as rain-sensing wipers. The other platform-mate of those two is the Lincoln MKX, which offers cooled and heated front seats, but my wife and I much prefer the interior and exterior of the Ford or Mazda versions.
The MDX with the Sport&Technology option may well be nice enought to justify the $12,000 more it would cost me than an AWD Edge SEL Plus with a Pioneer AVIC-Z1 based sound and navigation system (with Nav-Traffic), the Lincoln MKX dimming exterior mirror, and a aftermarket dimming interior mirror with Homelink.
Even if the MDX seems superior, I will drop it like a hot rock if the Acura dealers are as obnoxious as they were in 2001.
Curiously given the price difference, the Edge will almost surely be somewhat quicker than the MDX - look at the gear ratios, weight, and power:
Edge AWD SEL Plus
265 HP / 250 Ft.-Lbs., 6-speed automatic
overall 1st gear 14.3
overall 2nd gear 9.1
overall 3rd gear 5.8
overall 4th gear 4.5
overall 5th gear 3.2
overall 6th gear 2.3
Acura MDX Sport & Tech.
300 HP, 275 Ft. Lbs., 5-speed automatic
overall 1st gear 12.2
overall 2nd gear 7.3
overall 3rd gear 4.8
overall 4th gear 3.5
overall 5th gear 2.4
overall 6th gear ---
I wonder why Honda / Acura did not install a six-speed transmission in this new model?
#537 of 1262 Re: Buzz, Waiting Lists [fsmmcsi]
Sep 29, 2006 (2:51 pm)
"I wonder why Honda / Acura did not install a six-speed transmission in this new model?"
They don't have one.
Instead the budget went into developing the J37 engine, the sport-suspension system, and the integration of the VSA and SH-AWD.
#538 of 1262 Re: Buzz, Waiting Lists [fsmmcsi]
Sep 29, 2006 (7:28 pm)
As a side note, I did a price comparison with similar options between the Acura MDX and the Lincoln MKX. The Lincoln came in slightly below the MDX. I believe the amount was approximately $500.
I don't see the Ford Edge as a comparable SUV to the MDX. The two SUV's are not in the same class (interior/suspension). The Ford Edge would be more likely compared to the Honda Pilot.
As a side note do you think the Lincoln MKX is worth $12,00 more than the Ford Edge?
#539 of 1262 Re: Buzz, Waiting Lists [fsmmcsi]
Sep 30, 2006 (2:25 am)
Is the Mazda CX-9 a new model? It doesn't show on their website and I've not read about it in the auto mags?
#540 of 1262 Correlation paint color to interior temperature
Sep 30, 2006 (3:21 am)
As there seems to be a study for everything. Does someone know where I can find information on the correlation of the exterior paint color to the inside temperature for a car/suv? Does it make that much difference to have a white vehicle with light insides, or is black and black not that far off?
I put a deposit down on a Nimbus gray mettalic with taupe. I'm hoping the 3-zone climate control can handle any color.
I was told by a good friend years ago to always buy black or white because it was easier to match the paint. I would hope in this day and age, matching paint is easier to do.
#541 of 1262 Re: Correlation paint color to interior temperature [wopel]
Sep 30, 2006 (4:35 am)
Here's a couple of websites addressing the color issue:
#542 of 1262 Re: As A Value Player.... [hpowders]
Sep 30, 2006 (8:12 pm)
They do suck at this- but from another point, I have to give it to acura for simplifying some options. Seriosly, you can drop over ten grand worth of options into an expedition. whereas w/ MDX only options you can get is dealer instlled (like fender flares!). Er'thang else- standard.
#543 of 1262 Re: Deposit [pinkmelrose]
Sep 30, 2006 (8:19 pm)
3rd X5-BMW-Not reliable as others, but it does have cool features like head up display, some convenient interior options. will lease if I like it. December is the date of showing up.
5th veracruz-Hyundai, not sure about engine, but it debuts in this year. Probably most valuble prices of those.
how does hyundai show up on same list as a BMW???
#544 of 1262 Re: As A Value Player.... [albook]
Oct 01, 2006 (3:25 am)
The people here defending the options packages, I'm sure through no coincidence, are those people who are ordering all this stuff anyway. For them Acura's policy is indeed, economical.
I want the basic vehicle with the sport package and power liftgate. Can't get either without spending more money on stuff I don't want. Don't need nav or rear entertainment.
The option packages could have been made a little less "all-inclusive." Anybody should be able to order the sport package.
#545 of 1262 paint/options
Oct 01, 2006 (4:01 am)
Thanks for the paint links.
Acura did us all a disservice by packaging the options as they did. The sport package should stand alone. The power liftgate should be a separate option. DVD separate. It just seems to obvious. Not everyone has kids and needs the DVD, however, everyone has only 2 arms and would like that 3rd arm in the power liftgate. Why can't they see that?