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#1198 of 1262 Re: 2007 MDX [ttran3] FIT AND FINISH [dms9]
Sep 03, 2007 (5:18 pm)
Acura has done a good job. Now they need to work on their quality control.
I'll second that suggestion. We have a 2004 TL 6-speed and 2005 MDX. And on the last few occasions they have been in for service, the dealer gives my wife a 2007 MDX loaner to try and tempt us to trade.
My take on Acura is that the fit and finish are good, but not great. I don't have any rattling issues with my TL, but the paint quality at 3 years is not as good as was the case with my old 1995 Japanese built Nissan Maxima. Same with the MDX. And it does have a rattle or two that are intermittent.
One thing is for sure, there is not an Acura product sold, the RL included, that could match the fit and finish and "tightness" of my former 2002 Honda S2000. That car had a tiny fraction of the electronic gizmos of the current crop of Acuras, but the limited prduction, Japanese hand built quality showed everwhere - in the stiching on the leather, the lustre of the paint, the complete absence of rattles. So I too, expected a little better from Acura. It's not that they are bad - they could just be a notch or two better.
#1199 of 1262 Re: 2007 MDX [ttran3] FIT AND FINISH
Sep 09, 2007 (11:26 am)
Thank you all for your responses. It sounds like I am not the only one with these issues.
[maui19], like you, I needed a larger vehicle and practically "forced" myself to trade in my '05 A6 (I love that car). I considered the Q7, but option for option, from a value standpoint, it does not even come close to the MDX. If you decide to get the MDX, just make sure you have the dealer park the vehicle outdoor and inspect it thoroughly before signing anything. They had my vehicle indoor with fair lighting ... perhaps that's how I missed some of the issues before signing the paper.
I've been driving the MDX for about 3 weeks now. With the exception of some cosmetic issues I mentioned, I am enjoying the vehicle. The handling is quite good for an SUV. It hugs corners close very to the A6 ... at least with the sport pkg and sport suspension turned on. The technical gizmos are fun to play with. Overall, I am enjoying the vehicle.
#1200 of 1262 Sport Package - is it worth the cost?
Sep 10, 2007 (5:50 pm)
Getting closer to getting a new MDX. Can't decide on whether or not to get the Sport Package. Surprisingly, several salesmen have told me its not worth the extra money but I'd rather hear it from the folks who have purchased the car and have driven it for a while. Two questions please:
1) For those of you who purchased the Sport Package, are you pleased??
2) Brochure says Sport Package gets you perforated leather seats and a textured interior. What is the "textured interior"?? Only difference I can see is the seats.
Thanks for sharing.
#1201 of 1262 Re: Sport Package - is it worth the cost? [go_mdx1]
Sep 10, 2007 (8:08 pm)
The perforated seats are a scosh cooler IMHO. Our Sport/Ent has a textured metallic surface surrounding the shifter, kind of like washboard cross-hatch. Don't forget there's much more to the Sport than you may realize... distinctive five spoke Titanium finish rims (cinch to clean, hide brake dust better than regs), bigger stab bar. The sleeper feature I enjoy most is the Sport suspension mode. It's just slightly more taught than Comfort but dive in and stomp on the gas in a deserted traffic circle and you'll probably agree the rush was worth every penny.
I was disappointed in Consumer Reports review of the MDX, probably because they drove it like a traditional 'reactive' anti-skid SUV. If you dare to use SH-AWD as designed, and that takes more than casual 5/10 driving, you'll be rewarded with a whoosh that scoots you around nearly any corner even in poor traction conditions. I find myself getting on it early so the predictable 300 ponies can engage before I exit. Whether or not that matters to most drivers is sometimes a financial decision but knowing you have it handy is comforting as the MDX morphs well. The diff between comfort and sport mode is minute, you may even forget which is on (easy to bump the switch) then realize why it feels rougher. This vehicle is truly underrated for it's squat and scoot turning capabilities despite being paunchy. No, I don't sell them but am still in love after six months. Go for the Sport if it fits your wallet?
'07 Sport/Ent MDX
'06 Ody Touring
Scoping out big '08 SUV's
#1202 of 1262 Re: Sport Package - is it worth the cost? [go_mdx1]
Sep 11, 2007 (9:39 am)
BUY THE SPORT !!!!!!!!
Your dealer has no clue what he is talking about. That is especially true if you are going to buy the NAV system anyhow. The difference in price between the MDX with NAV and the Sport (which comes with the NAV) is not that great. Its a great value.
The magnetic ride was developed by Cadillac and (I think) Ferrari (could be wrong on the second on, but I am pretty sure it was of Italian sports heritage). It is incredible, in a quiet sort of way. I am simply astonished that I don't see more of the Sport's out there. Acura doesn't seem to be pushing them either, which is a real shame.
The Suspension has an active damper system. What that means is that the put iron filings into the shocks and then run current through them. It is constantly changing, many times a second. They get stiffer, they get softer, without you doing anything. That is true in the comfort mode or sport mode. The sport mode is just a bit stiffer. So, when do you notice it? Slam on the breaks on the MDX Standard and the nose goes down, just like any other vehicle. The shocks in the sport stiffen automatically and the nose of the Sport stays relatively flat. Go around an off ramp in the Sport, the truck stays level, the outside shocks are stiffening automatically to keep the car flat. Go on a bumpy road and the suspension loosens up to absorb the bumps. The active suspension, coupled with the SH-AWD is really a great system.
It really comes down to what you want. If you want something that outhandles an X5, the sport is what you need. If not, save the money. For me, there was no choice. I wish that Acura would advertise the sport more. They should put a little "S" or something on the rear badge. The only difference from the exterior is the wheels, which do clean very easily. As far as other features, I also like that the tires are better. The leather is nicer, and the metal cross hatch on the dash just looks more finished than grey hard plastic.
Buy the sport and have some fun!
#1203 of 1262 Re: 2007 MDX [maui19]
Sep 11, 2007 (10:21 am)
did you look at Audi's Q7 - a great SUV
#1204 of 1262 Re: 2007 MDX [bauks]
Sep 11, 2007 (10:07 pm)
Have you priced a Q7? A fully decked out Sport/Tech MDX is under $50K MSRP. The mid line Premium 3.6 (280 HP) Q7 comparably equipped like the MDX S/T has an MSRP of $59,250. That's nearly and MDX with a side order of Honda Fit. I test drove one and was impressed with fit & finish... but little else stood out and it didn't have quite the stickability of SH-AWD.
#1205 of 1262 Re: 2007 MDX [ttran3] FIT AND FINISH [dms9] [habitat1]
Sep 12, 2007 (1:21 pm)
I had previous Acuras and they were better built than the current ones. I have an 07 MDX and now regret the purchase due to rear suspension noises and other issues such as fit and finish, rattles, etc...
#1206 of 1262 Re: Sport Package - is it worth the cost? [davant]
Sep 15, 2007 (12:11 pm)
Interesting spelling of "Skoshi" When were you in WestPac? I'm an old carrier sailor from the 50-60"s. Fair winds and a following sea!
Sep 23, 2007 (11:59 am)
I want nothing to do with cylinder deactivation. It's needless complication. Fuel savings are not that great -- "up to" 20% promised by some car manufacturers but only 7% delivered in city driving and 15% claimed on average which I find a bit high. I had a 1981 Cadillac with the infamous 8-6-4 engine which I measured at 24 miles to the imperial gallon on the highway and then disconnected it by simply cutting off the wire from the transmission high-pressure sensor. After disconnecting, all 6-cylinder mode vibration was gone and my highway gas mileage was reduced to 21 miles to the imperial gallon. I was glad to give up the 12.5% fuel savings for a smooth-running engine.
I admit that deativation systems have improved since 1981 but some vibration and NOX issues remain to be resolved. I am concerned about possible long-term wear and metal fatigue problems resulting from running the engine block at an uneven temperature with temperature cycling due to some cylinders cutting in an out of the combustion process.