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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [akirby] by baggs32
Oct 07, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 06, 2009 10:19 am)

But they use the 6F35 with the 3.5L in the Edge, MKX, Taurus, MKS, Flex and MKT. But they don't use it in the Fusion/MKZ. Has to be more than just gearing.
 
The 6F50 is used in the Flex and MKT. Not sure about the others but I'm pretty sure anything with the 3.5L uses it too save for the Fusion apparently. The 6F35 is reserved for those engines smaller than the 3.5L. My question stemmed from this. Packaging issues or shipping issues are the only two reasons I can think of for Ford to use the Aisin in the Fusion Sport. I can't imagine it would be packaging though because the 6F35 and 6F50 are supposedly the same size and the 6F35 is used in the non-Sport Fusions.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [baggs32] by akirby
Oct 07, 2009 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Oct 07, 2009 8:48 am)

Yes, the 6F50 is used in the 3.5L applications, not the 6F35. The 6F55 is the beefed up version in the ecoboost models.
 
The 6F35 and 6F50 may be the same size - but the 3.0L and 3.5L engines are not. It's possible the 3.0L + 6F35 would fit but the 3.5L + 6F50 would not. It's just speculation. Maybe since they used the Aisin 6 speed with the 3.5L in the MkZ before the 6F50 was available it was easier to keep using it instead of switching.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [akirby] by baggs32
Oct 08, 2009 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 07, 2009 9:23 am)

That makes sense too Allen. I was thinking it might be cheaper to ship the Aisin from Japan to Mexico (via boat) than it is to truck or train-then-truck the 6F50 down there. Then again, your packaging argument makes more sense given that they already do train-then-truck the 6F35 down there. Although I'm not sure where all the variations of the 6F are assembled either.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [baggs32] by akirby
Oct 08, 2009 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Oct 08, 2009 8:22 am)

Frankly, the reason could be anything - taxes, shipping, plant capacity, purchase agreements. But isn't it fun to speculate? I'll see if my Ford contact has any other insight.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [akirby] by explorerx4
Oct 08, 2009 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 08, 2009 9:14 am)

as an fyi, multiply the number after the 'F' by the number of cylinders to get the transmission torque capacity.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [explorerx4] by thegraduate
Oct 08, 2009 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 08, 2009 3:07 pm)

Yeah? I believe ya, just wondering how you explain that the EcoBoost uses the 6F55 (= 330lb-ft capacity) with the engine producing 350 lb-ft. Does your figure assume driveline losses or something?
 
 
Just curious.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [explorerx4] by akirby
Oct 08, 2009 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 08, 2009 3:07 pm)

According to my former Ford transmission engineer friend you multiply by 10 to get the torque capacity. If you think about it - the number of cylinders in the engine would have nothing to do with the torque capacity of the transmission that it's attached to.
 
So a 6F35 has a capacity of 350 ft/lbs. Sounds like a lot but this is AFTER the torque converter and the torque converter can double the amount of engine torque at low speeds.
 
The first number is the number of speeds, then F for FWD or R for RWD then the torque capacity.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [thegraduate] by explorerx4
Oct 10, 2009 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 08, 2009 3:33 pm)

maybe it only applies to the 'R' transmissions.
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Attn: Fusion Owners by KarenS HOST
Oct 22, 2009 (9:50 am)
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Reliability! by samnoe
Nov 01, 2009 (8:01 am)
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Consumer Reports rated the Ford Fusion Higher than Toyota Camry & Honda Accord.
 
Unbelievable.
 
Note to Ford: Fix those few little complaints, and the Fusion would be a winner. Even more than it's now.
 
The controls are too low mounted and have too many look alike buttons together, which is hard to find/adjust while driving. Copy the Camry for simplicity, lagre, big controls, clearly marked & illuminated (also light the ignition key ring insert and the glove box), design a new updated steering wheel (smaller size. prefer size as the Honda Civic..) Re-arrange the stering wheel mounted controls to be easier to use, the interior door pull should be like on the MKZ/MKS, and a few more improvements, and you have one of the best sedans.

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