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Re: Anyone with a 2010 I4 SE with the Manual Transmission? [texasnightowl] by akirby
Sep 25, 2009 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: texasnightowl (Sep 25, 2009 2:51 pm)

I cross shopped a Mustang GT, Cougar and Lincoln LS and ended up with the LS. I didn't have any preconceived notions of what car I wanted.
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Re: Anyone with a 2010 I4 SE with the Manual Transmission? [texasnightowl] by jeffyscott
Sep 26, 2009 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: texasnightowl (Sep 25, 2009 2:51 pm)

Coming from a V6, you may also be used to more power at lower rpm. The difference you are noticing may be due as much to the engine as the transmission.
 
I went from a 4 cyl manual (Contour) to a 4 cyl automatic ('07 Mazda6) a couple years ago. I've found the transmission's operation to be pretty acceptable. The only negatives I notice are more vibration when stopped, a bit of slush when initially starting from a stop, and early up-shifting a bit early under light acceleration. I do like that under hard acceleration my Mazda trans shifts at redline, I guess some do not do that and have revs limited to something less than redline.
 
My wife has a Jetta and that is a super-smooth shifting transmission. The 2.5, 5 cyl engine also has more low end torque than my 4 cyl.
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2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage by noneneeded
Oct 01, 2009 (7:01 am)
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I am looking at a 2010 3.0 fusion and was wondering what gas mileage people are seeing with the v6's, awd or fwd.
 
Are you seeing numbers that are better or worse than what is on the sticker?
 
Also, does anyone know where the transmissions are being built or by whom?
 
Thanks
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [noneneeded] by akirby
Oct 01, 2009 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: noneneeded (Oct 01, 2009 7:01 am)

Pretty sure the 2010 3.0L uses the American made 6F35 tranny while the 3.5L continues to use the Aisin tranny in the Fusion, Milan and MKZ.
 
I have a 2006 3.0L and I get around 27 mpg on highway trips. City mileage on my daily commute averages anywhere from 17 to 21 depending on traffic.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [noneneeded] by explorerx4
Oct 01, 2009 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: noneneeded (Oct 01, 2009 7:01 am)

i have an 07 fusion v6 awd and averaged 22 for the first year, now averaging 23 mpg.
mostly a short highway commute. i rarely use the a/c. have a moonroof, which i keep cracked open as much as possible.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [akirby] by baggs32
Oct 02, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 01, 2009 7:35 am)

Pretty sure the 2010 3.0L uses the American made 6F35 tranny while the 3.5L continues to use the Aisin tranny in the Fusion, Milan and MKZ.
 
Why wouldn't the Ford 6F50 from the Taurus/Flex/Edge be used in them? Cheaper to ship the Aisin to Mexico maybe?
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [baggs32] by akirby
Oct 02, 2009 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Oct 02, 2009 9:28 am)

The 2.5 and 3.0L engines get the 6F35 while the 6F50 is reserved for the 3.5L models (difference is torque capacity).
 
Not sure why they continue to use the Aisin tranny in the 3.5L Fusion and MKZ. It's either a supply issue or some packaging issue where the aisin is smaller.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [akirby] by acdii
Oct 06, 2009 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 02, 2009 9:45 am)

Not sure why they continue to use the Aisin tranny in the 3.5L Fusion and MKZ. It's either a supply issue or some packaging issue where the aisin is smaller.
 
Gearing, the 3.5 puts out more power than either the 3.0 and the I4. Its also more sport tuned than the 6F35. Its reserved for use only in the Sport model, which I own and love. The shifts are manualesk in how it shifts, it has a slight pause between gears as if I were driving a stick, under light load, but put the pedal into it and the shifts are crisp and firm but not harsh. The ratios are setup for this car and with the 3.0 would be too high for the power output.
 
My fuel economy so far with 1700 miles is 24 city/highway mix, and 31 highway. The 3.5 and 3.0 get basically the same eco numbers.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [acdii] by akirby
Oct 06, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: acdii (Oct 06, 2009 10:45 am)

But they use the 6F35 with the 3.5L in the Edge, MKX, Taurus, MKS, Flex and MKT. But they don't use it in the Fusion/MKZ. Has to be more than just gearing.
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Re: 2010 Fusion v6 gas mileage [akirby] by baggs32
Oct 07, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 06, 2009 11:19 am)

But they use the 6F35 with the 3.5L in the Edge, MKX, Taurus, MKS, Flex and MKT. But they don't use it in the Fusion/MKZ. Has to be more than just gearing.
 
The 6F50 is used in the Flex and MKT. Not sure about the others but I'm pretty sure anything with the 3.5L uses it too save for the Fusion apparently. The 6F35 is reserved for those engines smaller than the 3.5L. My question stemmed from this. Packaging issues or shipping issues are the only two reasons I can think of for Ford to use the Aisin in the Fusion Sport. I can't imagine it would be packaging though because the 6F35 and 6F50 are supposedly the same size and the 6F35 is used in the non-Sport Fusions.

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