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Re: Fusion vs Milan [kev22] by trucker49
Jul 17, 2009 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: kev22 (Jul 16, 2009 12:32 pm)

In a review of the first generation Milan/Fusion a few years ago it was noted the Milan had a little more insulation and was a tad quieter. I like the seats in the Milan better. While I know they are built on the same line I wouldn't doubt there are slight differences....the Lincoln MKZ comes down the same line too and for 10k more I can't believe the differences are just cosmetic.
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BTW.... by trucker49
Jul 17, 2009 (9:23 pm)
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Ford did mention last fall they were thinking about doing away with the Mercury line after the next model cycle and I noticed they only have 2 models available for '10 soooo a more upscale Ford and the revamped Lincoln line makes sense. No need really for Mercury although I do like em better.
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Re: Fusion vs Milan [akirby] by jeffyscott
Jul 18, 2009 (4:07 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 17, 2009 12:45 pm)

Your description sounds an awful lot like this:
 
...a "world car," a vehicle that can be made and sold globally with only small concessions to local tastes.
...Ford has given it another try, committing an eye-popping $6 billion to develop compact sedans it can sell anywhere. The results, known elsewhere as the Mondeo, are the Ford Contour and the Mercury Mystique.

 
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/30/automobiles/behind-the-wheel-1995-ford-contour- -a-small-world-car-after-all.html
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Re: Fusion vs Milan [trucker49] by dmathews3
Jul 18, 2009 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: trucker49 (Jul 17, 2009 9:16 pm)

I think the orginal posters question was if one or the other car had better quality and I'm the one who answered that they both are built by the same people on the same assembley line. Of course the cosmetics could be different between models but the quality should be the same. They only give the person on the line so many seconds to do his/her job. They don't say this is a Lincoln you get an extra 30 sec. to complete the work. For example whether a Ford/Merc/Lincoln the bucket seat is bolted to the floor with 4 bolts so the person gets the same amount of time to install the seat no matter which car it is or maybe even a little less on the Lincoln because I'm guessing with all the power there could be more harnesses to connect. But the next car may be a manual seat with no harnesses so he makes up for the extra time on the Lincoln with the cheaper seat in the Ford.
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Re: Fusion vs Milan [dmathews3] by trucker49
Jul 18, 2009 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jul 18, 2009 6:12 am)

Yes, I agree, quality would be the same. I was just saying there are differences probably that just arent' cosmetic....like more insulation here or there perhaps in the engine compartment (inner hood blanket) to make one quieter then the other. Especially with the Lincoln.
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Re: Fusion vs Milan [trucker49] by dmathews3
Jul 18, 2009 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: trucker49 (Jul 18, 2009 8:14 am)

For what a Lincoln costs there had better be alot of cosmetics included
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Re: Fusion vs Milan [jeffyscott] by lilengineerboy
Jul 18, 2009 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 18, 2009 4:07 am)


...a "world car," a vehicle that can be made and sold globally with only small concessions to local tastes.
...Ford has given it another try, committing an eye-popping $6 billion to develop compact sedans it can sell anywhere. The results, known elsewhere as the Mondeo, are the Ford Contour and the Mercury Mystique.

 
The ConTique suffered from poor marketing and a half-baked flubbed launch. The car was over-budget although it was designed almost solely for the bottom line. That said, the 95-97 Contour/Mystique were expensive small to mid-size cars. It costs about the same as a Taurus, but had a much more upscale interior and much better driving dynamics.
 
Everyone was expecting a low budget Tempo replacement like the Chrysler K-car and they got a 15-20k sport sedan. Unfortunately, that sport sedan had Lucas electronics and a plastic water-pump (although BMW 3-series had the same issue). I would never have bought a Tempo or an Escort, but the Contour with its 24v V6, a manual transmission, and great handling (oh and those bolstered leather seats) got me. Unfortunately, they didn't follow it up with anything.
 
I think the Fusion SE 4 cyl/6 speed manual is likely to be my next ride, especially if I can't find a clean MazdaSpeed6 GT.
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Re: Fusion vs Milan [lilengineerboy] by jeffyscott
Jul 18, 2009 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 18, 2009 2:57 pm)

But meanwhile the Mondeo was successful in Europe. The world car became a europe only car because they could not design a car that appealed to both markets. I guess the Fiesta will be the first test to see if things are different today.
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Re: Fusion vs Milan [jeffyscott] by lilengineerboy
Jul 19, 2009 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 18, 2009 6:49 pm)

But meanwhile the Mondeo was successful in Europe. The world car became a Europe only car because they could not design a car that appealed to both markets.
 
Yup, very true. There is also the issue of price-point. Ford is a semi-premium brand in Europe in terms of what they charge for vehicles. The Mondeo is a very pricey piece of automotive hardware, with a relatively small diesel engine.
 
I guess the Fiesta will be the first test to see if things are different today.
 
I think the Transit Connect will be first, but that is more of a specialty vehicle for urban delivery places. Its like a Scion xB but with payload. Then the Fiesta and then the next Fusion.
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Re: Fusion vs Milan [lilengineerboy] by jeffyscott
Jul 19, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 19, 2009 5:20 am)

All car prices are high in Europe, In the UK the Mondeo starts at L18,000, Accord starts at about L20,000, Toyota Avensis (which I am guessing is equivalent to a Camry) starts at L16,000.
 
I have a kid waiting to try out a Fiesta, but if the de-europeanize it (in terms of handling and suspension) too much for the US, he will be disapointed. I don't how far they can go before he would pay the premium to get a Golf, instead. OTOH, I don't know how european they can keep it and still sell well in the US.
 
I may be tempted to consider going to the Fusion if/when they offer a DSG type transmission (power shift is Ford's term, I believe) and if one of my kids would be interested in buying my Mazda6. I went to an automatic in my current car, but would, I think, like to have the best of both worlds with that type of trans...though I have yet to drive one.

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