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Mercury Milan, Ford Fusion, Sedan
#5315 of 5819 Re: 2010 Fusion V6's 0-60 [thegraduate]
Apr 20, 2009 (11:30 am)
Thegraduate is absolutely right. Different publications will get different results and manufacturer claims will be different as well. Ford's claims have been more conservative lately than the numbers usually recorded by the enthusiast magazines.
Car & Driver quoted a 6.8 second 0-60 for a 2008 Taurus with the 3.5. The Taurus is heavier than the Fusion and has a much less favorable (for acceleration) gear ratio than the Fusion Sport. Motor Trend quoted 7.2 for the heavier AWD version of the Taurus - again much heavier than the AWD Fusion. Based on those numbers, I would expect a Fusion Sport to be in the mid sixes using the same techniques.
#5316 of 5819 Window sticker vs Ford Website MPG
Apr 20, 2009 (3:23 pm)
Just stopped by a local Ford/Mercury dealer to take a quick look at the new Fusion and Milan. Ford has been bombarding us with this 34mpg, best in class etc. I checked their website and it states 34mpg HWY for the I-4 auto.
The window sticker said 31MPG HWY. What's up with that? Also, I think eliminating the round clock from the Milan dash was a mistake. I think it added a classy look.
#5317 of 5819 Re: Window sticker vs Ford Website MPG [m6user]
Apr 20, 2009 (3:31 pm)
Only the S model gets 34 mpg. The SE/SELs get 31 mpg.
#5318 of 5819 Re: 2010 Fusion V6's 0-60 [explorerx4]
Apr 20, 2009 (3:48 pm)
why is this a big deal? do you really think anyone going to drag race a fusion?
As someone who sells cars for a living, I would expect an understanding of selling the sizzle more than the steak. Bench racers everywhere are going to point out 0-60 times, horsepower ratings, etc.
Can anyone feel 1 tenth of a second or 3 horsepower? Probably not. Are the cars going to be rated with specs?
Also, why does a Fusion have to be inherently dull? If I wanted a dull sedan I would get a Camry. Ford will lose the race to the bottom. They need to make cars that are engaging to drive. The previous Fusion was a huge step in the right direction...I don't have enough seat time in the new one yet to know if the trend continues.
#5319 of 5819 Re: Window sticker vs Ford Website MPG [akirby]
Apr 20, 2009 (3:55 pm)
Tks. Why is that? Is the S model some kind of "mpg special" ie low resistance tires. less weight, ???.
#5320 of 5819 Re: Window sticker vs Ford Website MPG [m6user]
Apr 20, 2009 (4:44 pm)
a while back, i posted some bullet points from ford about how they got the 34 mpg rating.
#5321 of 5819 Re: 2010 Fusion V6's 0-60 [nomoreford2]
Apr 20, 2009 (5:00 pm)
do you know if the numbers are for a fwd or awd model?
i had an 89 sho, it's 'been there, done that', 20 years ago.
jeez, i'm getting old.
#5322 of 5819 Re: 2010 Fusion V6's 0-60 [thegraduate]
Apr 20, 2009 (6:36 pm)
Whose numbers are you quoting there? Unless they're by the same people, you really can't compare them.
The 2010 numbers quoted are from Ford themselves, and they are conservative to say the least...
I agree though. Wait until C&D or MT tests a 2010 for themselves, then compare them to the current car from the SAME source. I can almost guarantee they'll be different (and most likely lower).
#5323 of 5819 Re: Window sticker vs Ford Website MPG [m6user]
Apr 20, 2009 (9:21 pm)
Is the S model some kind of "mpg special" ie low resistance tires. less weight, ???.
#5324 of 5819 2010 Interior...
Apr 30, 2009 (3:02 pm)
Seeing and reviewing all pictures, details and reviews, on the 2010 Fusion/Milan, I canít help but share a few thoughts.
While I am mostly impressed to see what Ford is capable of, having built a nice package, quite nice design (exterior), good ride/handling in addition to AWD, loads of features, good fuel economy (especially in the Hybrid version), plus add to that the good reliability Ford is joining recently, I still have some critic, especially on the interior.
Why on earth is Ford adding more and more buttons with every redesign? Donít they see that the button-cluttered interiors are getting bad reviews all over, even the good cars like the Honda Accord? Why do we need 12 separate buttons, plus an additional 12 "soft buttons" on the navigation LCD (=24 buttons) just to control the temperature? Why does it need to be so confusing? Whatís bad with the old, tried and true, easy to use, 3 or 4 rotary dials? They can design it that way even for the automatic temperature control and even for dual zone! The Camry is a good example of an easy temperature control layout, but even the Camry has room for improvement (on the automatic temperature versions. The manual controls are perfect). The only so-called benefit is that you can "speak" temperature up/down, but IMO it's not worth it!
And the stereo/radio controls are not much better either, still confusing. The Camry is a good example for the stereo system as well, and so is Hyundai Sonata. Even the Chevy Malibu is better (without NAV). For everything, itís always better to use dials rather than buttons, and all the buttons has to be large, and easy to control even in middle of driving (a good example is the Toyota Highlander Ė giant controls!!).
And whatís up with that steering wheel? To start off, itís the largest in any midsize car! This size almost suits for a truck, and reduces the sporty feeling. It rather feels like youíre driving a big truck. All the Japanese steering wheels are much smaller and more comfortable to handle. And then, the Ford/Mercury/Lincoln steering wheel design is so sick and old.... canít they come up with something fresh? And the integrated controls are confusing as well. They should be more divided and apart, not have so many look-alike buttons together.
And in general, I think the interior does not look too clean and smooth. I canít pinpoint exactly what it is, maybe the textures, maybe the colors, ergonomics, might be the control layout (or the fonts? I donít like them), but either way it needs refinement. The new Taurus will be a bit better (the angled dash helps), the Flex is also better, but still not so elegant, attractive, or inviting, as many of the competitions. Also the gauges, while much better than previous Fordís, can use some more sophistication.
Otherwise, I think Ford is on track with the best out there. Keep it on; youíre going in the good direction!!