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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [jeffyscott] by baggs32
Feb 13, 2009 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Feb 13, 2009 11:26 am)

Are you sure? According to EPA, it is the manfuacturer that gives the numbers to them
 
Yes, I'm 99% sure. This page tells you that the mfr does not test every vehicle but the EPA does. The page you posted is therefore telling us that the mfr does submit what tests they do perform and the EPA still tests them too only verifying 10-15% of them which means they do not verify the other 85-90% of them and just posts their own results on their site and on the window stickers.
 
It doesn't say anywhere on their site why they do the verification. My guess is that they do it to police the mfrs testing methods and results.
 
For example, Ford's initial FE release on the Fusion Hybrid stated something like 38 or 39 MPG city. The EPA says 41 MPG city and that's what will be on the window stickers.
 
I could be misinterpreting this so any insight is welcome.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [berri] by baggs32
Feb 13, 2009 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Feb 13, 2009 5:58 pm)

I believe both the Taurus and Fusion have significant changes from engines to suspensions to sound deadening and glass. I expect they will both be much stronger and improved competitors in their respective classes.
 
Not to mention the huge interior improvements. The Taurus interior is now darn near that of its sister the Lincoln MKS. Then there's the Taurus SHO which will use a more powerful version of the EB 3.5L TT that will go in other Ford and Lincoln vehicles.
 
I just saw both, Fusion Hybrid and Sport and Taurus Limited, in person at the Pittsburgh Auto Show yesterday and both were pretty impressive. The Taurus blew me away. Pictures don't do it justice. Unfortunately the Fusion Sport and Taurus Limited were on turntables so it was hard to get a great look at them. The FFH was on the floor, but locked, and it looked great inside and out. I'd buy either one but the Flex won my heart that night.
 
Young people were admiring the Taurus though and I heard many positive comments on it. Maybe Ford is on to something here?
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Ford will rebound by cannon3
Feb 15, 2009 (3:17 pm)
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As a car buff for 30+ years, along with surfing this wonderful internet. I am going to make a bold prediction. Ford will regain its #2 spot for U.S. sales in 5 years. Taurus, Fusion, F series, to name a few vehicles are really turning heads in this industry. Ford is listening to the consumer and is giving consumers what they want. The soon to be released Fiesta, and the 2010 Focus are also going to be big winners for Ford here in the U.S. Ford is still small enough to turn its ship around and become profitable and a potent car manufacture.
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Re: Ford will rebound [cannon3] by thegraduate
Feb 15, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: cannon3 (Feb 15, 2009 3:17 pm)

I, for one, truly hope Ford succeeds, but remember that the other automakers won't be exactly resting on their laurels.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [coldcranker] by xmech
Feb 15, 2009 (8:29 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 13, 2009 10:05 am)

I know it seems early to ask about a 2010 model, but even the Ford site says coming in Spring 2009. I figured they would try to bring this one out early to boost their sales. I've been looking for a mid-size sedan replacement for my Grand Cherokee, and the Fusion was never really on my list at first, as the 4 cyl model got the mileage of the Accord and Sonata 6 cyl's. It looks like they'll get it right with the 2010 model, though. The 4 cyl seems great, and yes I'm anxious to find out what the 6 cyl MPG rates, though the new 4 cyl seems to have adequate power by the numbers anyways. My Jeep was costing me $10 a day in gas commuting to work and back last year when the gas prices got so high. I'm glad they made these improvements as I was ready to get a 2009 Sonata, and now I'm reading alot of people are having suspension noise/problems with those...
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [xmech] by akirby
Feb 16, 2009 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: xmech (Feb 15, 2009 8:29 pm)

They are in production now in Hermosillo, but they'll need a few weeks to ramp up and start shipping. I'd expect the 2010 models to start arriving end of March, early April.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [xmech] by xmech
Feb 17, 2009 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: xmech (Feb 15, 2009 8:29 pm)

Just read the edmunds review on the 2010 Fusion, and according to them, it now has poor steering feel thanks to electic power steering... They just HAD to screw something up, didn't they? How many MPG do you lose for hydraulic steering? (The reason I think they went with electric.) I guess you could shell out the extra $7k for the Sport version, then forget the MPG.
 
If it's as bad as the Sonata, you might as well be playing a video game. Heck, I wonder if I could switch the steering wheel out for a force-feedback video game one, it would be an improvement over those things.
 
Hopefully it won't be too bad, or my search will have to continue.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [xmech] by akirby
Feb 17, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: xmech (Feb 17, 2009 9:22 am)

Autoblog found no such problem:
 
Similarly on the autocross course, the Camry proved to be an understeering slug that was extremely reluctant to change direction. Turning the steering wheel was like using an old video game wheel with no force feedback. The effort was overly light and the angle seemed to have little relationship to where the car was going. One other steering problem the Camry exhibited was a tendency to run out of steering assist during the slalom where the sequence of left-right steering inputs demanded more than the power steering pump could supply. The electric power steering on the Fusion exhibited no such issues.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [akirby] by berri
Feb 17, 2009 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 17, 2009 9:31 am)

Cars.com review drove the 09 and 10 Fusion back to back on a long distance trip and said the 2010 was much improved and rather impressive.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [berri] by xmech
Feb 17, 2009 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Feb 17, 2009 12:32 pm)

Well, that's good to hear. Just have to wait and see. Just hope gas prices don't go through the roof again before I 'upgrade'.

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