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Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [coldcranker] by baggs32
Jan 27, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 27, 2009 8:31 am)

My point is: Ford uses a platform really meant for a 3300 lb vehicle on a 4000+ lb vehicle, and I was wondering exactly what Ford has to do to keep the chassis stresses under control.
 
They modify it. I'm not sure it can be put any other way than that. Honda made the Pilot out of the Accord and Odyssey, Toyota made the Highlander and Sienna out of the Camry, Mazda made the CX-9 out of the Mazda6. It's not like they dropped the body of the Edge on top of the Mazda6 chassis and crossed their fingers that it would hold up. They do add structural reinforcements and bend a bunch of the chassis components to make it all work. The Edge chassis is based on, and loosely I'd wager, the Mazda6 chassis. It's not using the Mazda6 chassis intact.
 
I'm not sure anyone short of a Ford engineer can tell you exactly what had to be modified to make it work for the Edge.
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Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [baggs32] by coldcranker
Feb 05, 2009 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 27, 2009 9:28 am)

baggs32, Or just looking underneath the two vehicles would be nice. No huge effort there, no engineering degree required. What parts are bigger? I do agree with you that its a very loose re-use of the Fusion chassis on an Edge.
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2010 Fusion, when? by xmech
Feb 12, 2009 (10:14 pm)
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I'm suprised how the 2010 Taurus almost came out of nowhere, already has a date when you can test drive them (Buy 'em?), and seemingly the facts and figures like MPG are available. So what happened to the 2010 Fusion? Lots of hype about the hybrid and I-4 MPG, and a few rumors about when we may see them in the showrooms, but that's about it. (OK, a nice bunch of pages on Ford's website, but they still don't have a V6 MPG figure yet? I heard they're already running the assembly line in Mexico for them.) Did I miss something? Are they having issues?
 
I'm still not ready to jump into buying one, but just waiting on the news.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [xmech] by akirby
Feb 13, 2009 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: xmech (Feb 12, 2009 10:14 pm)

They're in production now but they have to go through a rigorous new launch procedure where they build flawless vehicles for 5 straight days. One problem and they start all over. Production was initially scheduled to begin in December but got pushed back to clear out the excess 2009 models.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [xmech] by baggs32
Feb 13, 2009 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: xmech (Feb 12, 2009 10:14 pm)

OK, a nice bunch of pages on Ford's website, but they still don't have a V6 MPG figure yet?
 
Complain to the EPA about that one. Ford has their numbers for sure but only the EPA numbers get put on the window stickers and it's up to them to get those numbers to Ford.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [xmech] by coldcranker
Feb 13, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: xmech (Feb 12, 2009 10:14 pm)

xmech said "I'm suprised how the 2010 Taurus almost came out of nowhere, already has a date when you can test drive them (Buy 'em?), and seemingly the facts and figures like MPG are available."
 
Came out of nowhere? Its just got different sheetmetal compared to the 2005 through 2009 Ford 500/Taurus, so its not that new of a car for Ford to bring out. The drivetrain has been out there for about 3 years, too. Comparatively, the 3.0L V6 in the 2010 Ford Fusion has had some semi-major engineering changes, so there is a lot new there. And its a 2010 model, theoretically, and its only Feb. 2009, so maybe a little patience? Still, the 2010 Fusion Hybrid is going to be sold in about a month, not that long to wait.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [baggs32] by jeffyscott
Feb 13, 2009 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Feb 13, 2009 9:18 am)

Are you sure? According to EPA, it is the manfuacturer that gives the numbers to them:
 
Fuel economy is measured under controlled conditions in a laboratory using a standardized test procedure specified by federal law. Manufacturers test their own vehicles—usually pre-production prototypes—and report the results to EPA. EPA reviews the results and confirms about 10-15 percent of them through their own tests
 
http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/how_tested.shtml
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [coldcranker] by akirby
Feb 13, 2009 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 13, 2009 10:05 am)

Its just got different sheetmetal compared to the 2005 through 2009 Ford 500/Taurus, so its not that new of a car for Ford to bring out.
 
Are you serious??? It's got different EVERYTHING except the base drivetrain. Totally new interior and exterior AND a 365 hp SHO version. It's basically a new car (for once). It's closer to the MKS than the old Taurus.
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [akirby] by savetheland
Feb 13, 2009 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 13, 2009 2:05 pm)

It is inteesting when Camry or Accord come with "just new sheetmetal" (and they usually do) everybody crows how Toyota and Honda create brand new car every 4 year. And when Ford does the same it is the same car with "just new sheetmetal".
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Re: 2010 Fusion, when? [akirby] by berri
Feb 13, 2009 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 13, 2009 2:05 pm)

I believe both the Taurus and Fusion have significant changes from engines to suspensions to sound deadening and glass. I expect they will both be much stronger and improved competitors in their respective classes.

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