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#5188 of 5819 New Fusion chassis in 2012
Jan 24, 2009 (1:12 pm)
Ford executives told Automotive News yesterday at the 2009 North American International Auto Show that the next generation Ford Fusion will share a platform with the current European Ford Mondeo.
"We're transitioning to a Fusion-Mondeo convergence," Derrick Kuzak, Ford's vice president of global product development said at the show. He confirmed that Ford EUCD platform, which the mid-size Mondeo is built on, will be the foundation for all of Ford's mid-size vehicles, including the Ford Fusion.
In the U.S., the Ford Fusion goes head to head with the Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Hyundai Sonata, and Chevrolet Malibu in one of the most competitive segments in the market. The Fusion currently rides on the Mazda 6-derived CD3 platform, which is also used under the Mercury Milan, Lincoln MKZ, Ford Edge, and Lincoln MKX. Ford reduced its controlling stake in Mazda to 13 percent late last year.
Since Alan Mulally took over as CEO for Ford, he has made a push to globalize platform development. In the coming years, this will lead to European-engineered and developed models migrating to the U.S. market, including the Ford Fiesta, which will be sold for the first time in the U.S. market, and a European-derived next-gen Ford Focus. We can reasonably expect the next-gen Lincoln MKZ, Ford Edge, and Lincoln MKX to ride on the new Fusion platform as well, although the future of the Mercury Milan is uncertain.
Although none of the executives at the auto show would say when the next-gen global mid-size car would appear in Europe or North America, analysts and suppliers expect the car to be available in the U.S. in 2012 as a 2013 model.
#5189 of 5819 Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [mitchflorida]
Jan 24, 2009 (2:07 pm)
I've always been amazed that a Fusion CD3 Mazda6 platform can be used on the 4,400 lb Ford Edge, whereas the Fusion weighs 1,000 lbs less. Does anybody know if the control arms and spring mounts are at least different when using it on a big crossover like the Edge? And there must be reinforcements added to pan of the heavier incarnation.
#5190 of 5819 Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [coldcranker]
Jan 24, 2009 (4:01 pm)
the current fusion, i have an '07, is based on the previous gen mazda 6.
you can see where the original platform was stretched in width.
i have been in an edge a few times, even driven 1 for a few days, but i never thought to look for the same platform underneath.
#5191 of 5819 Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [explorerx4]
Jan 25, 2009 (8:32 am)
The Edge platform was highly modified from the Fusion platform. I'd say they're more cousins than siblings at this point.
#5192 of 5819 Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [akirby]
Jan 25, 2009 (4:22 pm)
akirby, I know what you mean. I'd love to compare the underside view of an Edge to a Fusion. I'd guess there are welded-on stiffeners added to the pan, and the control arm mounts and control arms themselves are thicker/longer, and the springs are wider. We all understand that car makers want to save money by sharing platforms amongst models, but man thats a big diff in weights on that Mazda6 platform between a Fusion and an Edge.
#5193 of 5819 Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [coldcranker]
Jan 26, 2009 (10:03 am)
I've always been amazed that a Fusion CD3 Mazda6 platform can be used on the 4,400 lb Ford Edge, whereas the Fusion weighs 1,000 lbs less.
I think you pulled the weights from two bad examples. Ford's site says a 2008 Fusion SE FWD V6 weighs 3280 lbs while a 2008 Edge SE FWD weighs 4078 lbs. That's still a difference of 800 lbs but a lot of it is due to extra sheet metal, the aforementioned structural reinforcements/additions, more glass, more sound deadening materials, slightly heavier engine, larger wheels, etc.
I'm guessing the 2010 Fusion will be a little heavier since it will have more sound deadening materials and some other enhancements that seem likely to add a small amount of weight.
#5194 of 5819 Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [baggs32]
Jan 27, 2009 (8:31 am)
baggs32, Yes I know that the weight diff between an Edge and a Fusion is because the Edge is bigger. .. My point is: Ford uses a platform really meant for a 3300 lb vehicle on a 4000+ lb vehicle, and I was wondering exactly what Ford has to do to keep the chassis stresses under control. Thats like you or I putting on a 100 lb backpack with our same knees, back, and ankles. Thats a lot of extra weight to carry around, so something has to give, but what components specifically.
#5195 of 5819 Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [coldcranker]
Jan 27, 2009 (9:28 am)
My point is: Ford uses a platform really meant for a 3300 lb vehicle on a 4000+ lb vehicle, and I was wondering exactly what Ford has to do to keep the chassis stresses under control.
They modify it. I'm not sure it can be put any other way than that. Honda made the Pilot out of the Accord and Odyssey, Toyota made the Highlander and Sienna out of the Camry, Mazda made the CX-9 out of the Mazda6. It's not like they dropped the body of the Edge on top of the Mazda6 chassis and crossed their fingers that it would hold up. They do add structural reinforcements and bend a bunch of the chassis components to make it all work. The Edge chassis is based on, and loosely I'd wager, the Mazda6 chassis. It's not using the Mazda6 chassis intact.
I'm not sure anyone short of a Ford engineer can tell you exactly what had to be modified to make it work for the Edge.
#5196 of 5819 Re: New Fusion chassis in 2012 [baggs32]
Feb 05, 2009 (8:33 pm)
baggs32, Or just looking underneath the two vehicles would be nice. No huge effort there, no engineering degree required. What parts are bigger? I do agree with you that its a very loose re-use of the Fusion chassis on an Edge.
#5197 of 5819 2010 Fusion, when?
Feb 12, 2009 (10:14 pm)
I'm suprised how the 2010 Taurus almost came out of nowhere, already has a date when you can test drive them (Buy 'em?), and seemingly the facts and figures like MPG are available. So what happened to the 2010 Fusion? Lots of hype about the hybrid and I-4 MPG, and a few rumors about when we may see them in the showrooms, but that's about it. (OK, a nice bunch of pages on Ford's website, but they still don't have a V6 MPG figure yet? I heard they're already running the assembly line in Mexico for them.) Did I miss something? Are they having issues?
I'm still not ready to jump into buying one, but just waiting on the news.