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#5164 of 5511 Re: Check this link out [baggs32] by coldcranker Dec 03, 2008 (9:43 am)
Replying to: baggs32 (Dec 01, 2008 6:35 pm) You Fusion owners have made a good choice. I love my '05 Freestyle, but I just rented an '08 Fusion SEL V6 last weekend and had some fun. Spins the front tires (Michelin Primacy 225 width) easily. Handles great. I had to really watch for highway patrol vehicles. I know this thing gets great quality ratings, and now I know its fun to drive. Ford is doing allright. I guess the criticisms come for the suspension being a bit too harsh compared to Accords, Camry, Malibu, Sonata, but I had no problem with it myself.   Can't wait for the Fusion hybrid to come out in about a year or so, as it should use the time-tested Ford Escape excellent hybrid system.   That V6 is the 3.0L V6 Duratec like in my '05 Freestyle, but I think the Fusion is different than the Freestyle version and has variable valve timing (VVT) and slightly different heads/valvetrain (?). Is that the case, Fusion owners? I know Ford tweaked the old 3.0L V6 to go into the '09 Ford Escape, increasing power without sacrificing fuel economy, so there is life left in that highly evolved, proven design for a 24V V6. (Aside: Did you know Porsche originally designed the Duratec V6, and a 2.5L version went into the Ford Contour / Mercury Mystique / Mondeo(Europe) 14 years ago?)   On the downside, Ford needs to get better MPG out of its 4-cylinder Fusion, since Saturn Aura is up to 33 MPG highway, and Hyundai Sonata is at 32 MPG highway to Ford Fusion's 29 MPG highway. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 03, 2008 10:19 am) dieselone (Dec 17, 2008 1:26 pm) akirby (Dec 03, 2008 10:19 am) coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 3:43 pm) coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 3:47 pm)
#5165 of 5511 Re: Check this link out [coldcranker] by thegraduate Dec 03, 2008 (10:19 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 9:43 am)   Yep! I believe it made 195hp in SVT form. Comparable to the Nissan Maxima.   Not sure what the torque numbers were. Replies to this message: dieselone (Dec 17, 2008 1:26 pm)
#5166 of 5511 Re: Check this link out [coldcranker] by akirby Dec 03, 2008 (10:19 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 9:43 am) Job 1 for the 2010 Fusion is February including the hybrid based on current reports. It's not a year away - it's only 2 months away. Yes, the 3.0L V6 in the Fusion has VCT good for 221 hp compared to 200 or 210 in the Freestyle. The 2010 Fusion gets the updated 240+ hp version.   It also gets the same new 2.5L I4 from the Escape and should net 33 city/34 highway - best in class. The hybrid fusion will beat the camry hybrid's fuel economy by 6 mpg (39 city vs. 33).   There will also be a 263 hp 3.5L sport version available with manumatic shifting on the V6 models. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 3:43 pm) coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 3:47 pm)
#5167 of 5511 Re: Check this link out [akirby] by coldcranker Dec 03, 2008 (3:43 pm)
Replying to: akirby (Dec 03, 2008 10:19 am) Thanks for the responses. My Freestyle Duratec V6 (203 hp, 205 ft-lb) has roller followers on the valvetrain, compared to many other Duratec V6 variations out there (Jaguar, Lincoln LS, Fusion, Mazda, etc.) that tend to run DAMB, aka direct-acting mechanical buckets, which rev better but don't wear as well over time. I'm guessing the Fusion uses that, and I know the other cars do. I think the old Taurus used roller followers, too, not the DAMB. The Freestyle Duratec V6 also runs the water pump on a mechanical gear, where the others are using a belt. Odd that they wouldn't just use the new gear-driven water pump across the line. Wikipedia (search in there on the word duratec) at Wikipedia Link -- put in duratec as search word. has a good summary of the details. Its been a while since I took a peak in there, so I'll see if they have the new info about the '09 Escape's new Duratec V6 variation. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 3:47 pm)
#5168 of 5511 Re: Check this link out [coldcranker] by coldcranker Dec 03, 2008 (3:47 pm)
Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 3:43 pm) OK, good education article on the newest changes coming to the Fusion/Milan at Click here for details
#5169 of 5511 Fusion Hybrid -- Ordered One Yet? by coldcranker Dec 07, 2008 (11:00 am)
Anybody ordered a Fusion hybrid yet, set for Feb. 2009? Wow what a new car. Better than a Camry hybrid by quite a bit.
#5170 of 5511 Fusion Hybrid by KarenS HOST Dec 11, 2008 (10:36 am)
For those interested in discussing the Fusion/Milan hybrid, please go here.
#5171 of 5511 a test drive by explorerx4 Dec 12, 2008 (5:27 pm)
FFH review
#5172 of 5511 fusion awd in the snow by explorerx4 Dec 13, 2008 (5:34 am)
had my first occasion to experience how the awd works last weekend in the snow. the snow was either fresh or packed down, not plowed, but the landscape was pretty flat. didn't notice any wheelspin starting out or turning, so i guess it works pretty well. you still have to be careful about stopping. had to scrape my windows for the first time too, bought the car last march.
#5173 of 5511 Source: Ford Motor Company by threads Dec 13, 2008 (2:15 pm)
"Unlike the four-wheel-drive systems found on many trucks and SUVs, Fusion’s all-wheel-drive system has been tuned with an emphasis toward performance while still offering confident, all-weather driving. By constantly monitoring and predicting traction, the system seamlessly delivers torque to all four wheels, even before wheel slippage occurs. An active, on-demand coupler can deliver the precise amount of torque to the rear wheels up to 100 percent." [2006] Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Dec 13, 2008 3:34 pm)

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