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Re: Check this link out [baggs32] by thegraduate
Nov 29, 2008 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 29, 2008 6:25 pm)

Thanks for posting this... exactly what I was looking for!
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Re: Check this link out [baggs32] by thegraduate
Nov 29, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 29, 2008 6:20 pm)

Ha!
 
Actually, exterior style isn't typically high on my list. If it is conservative (as my cars are), then fine. If it draws attention to itself, let it be positive. I don't have a problem with the cars fundamentally, I just don't care for the more *ahem* easily-noticed front-end on either one.
 
Better than the Avenger and Sebring though, for sure!
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Re: Check this link out [thegraduate] by baggs32
Nov 30, 2008 (8:29 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 29, 2008 7:35 pm)

Some pics of the new Fusion gauges show a small LCD display under the PRNDL readouts which I would imagine are for the gear numbers 1 through 6 when in manual mode. However I have not confirmed this anywhere and have not seen a pic of the gauges while the car was started either.
 
You've seen the hybrid's gauges right? I think it was you whom I was conversing with about those on the midsize thread, no?
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Re: Check this link out [baggs32] by thegraduate
Nov 30, 2008 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 30, 2008 8:29 pm)

Yeah, saw those - that's why I wanted to see some standard-car gauges. Still not a fan of the leaves (in either Honda or Ford), but hey, I don't know - I just drive here.
 
 
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Re: Check this link out [thegraduate] by baggs32
Dec 01, 2008 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 30, 2008 8:53 pm)

Still not a fan of the leaves (in either Honda or Ford
 
Ford did realize there would be people like you and they do allow you to customize many parts of that Hybrid gauge cluster. The leaves can be changed to a graph readout if you don'tlike them. There might be other options for that part of the display but I'm not 100% sure. I don't remember reading that Honda allowed you to make such a change to their 1985-looking leaves.
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Re: Check this link out [baggs32] by coldcranker
Dec 03, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Dec 01, 2008 6:35 pm)

You Fusion owners have made a good choice. I love my '05 Freestyle, but I just rented an '08 Fusion SEL V6 last weekend and had some fun. Spins the front tires (Michelin Primacy 225 width) easily. Handles great. I had to really watch for highway patrol vehicles. I know this thing gets great quality ratings, and now I know its fun to drive. Ford is doing allright. I guess the criticisms come for the suspension being a bit too harsh compared to Accords, Camry, Malibu, Sonata, but I had no problem with it myself.
 
Can't wait for the Fusion hybrid to come out in about a year or so, as it should use the time-tested Ford Escape excellent hybrid system.
 
That V6 is the 3.0L V6 Duratec like in my '05 Freestyle, but I think the Fusion is different than the Freestyle version and has variable valve timing (VVT) and slightly different heads/valvetrain (?). Is that the case, Fusion owners? I know Ford tweaked the old 3.0L V6 to go into the '09 Ford Escape, increasing power without sacrificing fuel economy, so there is life left in that highly evolved, proven design for a 24V V6. (Aside: Did you know Porsche originally designed the Duratec V6, and a 2.5L version went into the Ford Contour / Mercury Mystique / Mondeo(Europe) 14 years ago?)
 
On the downside, Ford needs to get better MPG out of its 4-cylinder Fusion, since Saturn Aura is up to 33 MPG highway, and Hyundai Sonata is at 32 MPG highway to Ford Fusion's 29 MPG highway.
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Re: Check this link out [coldcranker] by thegraduate
Dec 03, 2008 (10:19 am)
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Yep! I believe it made 195hp in SVT form. Comparable to the Nissan Maxima.
 
Not sure what the torque numbers were.
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Re: Check this link out [coldcranker] by akirby
Dec 03, 2008 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 9:43 am)

Job 1 for the 2010 Fusion is February including the hybrid based on current reports. It's not a year away - it's only 2 months away. Yes, the 3.0L V6 in the Fusion has VCT good for 221 hp compared to 200 or 210 in the Freestyle. The 2010 Fusion gets the updated 240+ hp version.
 
It also gets the same new 2.5L I4 from the Escape and should net 33 city/34 highway - best in class. The hybrid fusion will beat the camry hybrid's fuel economy by 6 mpg (39 city vs. 33).
 
There will also be a 263 hp 3.5L sport version available with manumatic shifting on the V6 models.
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Re: Check this link out [akirby] by coldcranker
Dec 03, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Dec 03, 2008 10:19 am)

Thanks for the responses. My Freestyle Duratec V6 (203 hp, 205 ft-lb) has roller followers on the valvetrain, compared to many other Duratec V6 variations out there (Jaguar, Lincoln LS, Fusion, Mazda, etc.) that tend to run DAMB, aka direct-acting mechanical buckets, which rev better but don't wear as well over time. I'm guessing the Fusion uses that, and I know the other cars do. I think the old Taurus used roller followers, too, not the DAMB. The Freestyle Duratec V6 also runs the water pump on a mechanical gear, where the others are using a belt. Odd that they wouldn't just use the new gear-driven water pump across the line. Wikipedia (search in there on the word duratec) at Wikipedia Link -- put in duratec as search word. has a good summary of the details. Its been a while since I took a peak in there, so I'll see if they have the new info about the '09 Escape's new Duratec V6 variation.
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Re: Check this link out [coldcranker] by coldcranker
Dec 03, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 03, 2008 3:43 pm)

OK, good education article on the newest changes coming to the Fusion/Milan at Click here for details

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