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Consumer Reports Most Reliable
by mtnman1
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Nov 04, 2008 (4:15 pm)
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Was checking my CR Online subscription and saw that they had there list of most Reliable/Least Reliable. They listed 6 Family Sedans and the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan where two of them for most Reliable. Also CR said Ford as a brand is now equal to the Japanese Automakers. Too bad so many people can't see through their bias to try out Ford vehicles instead of blindly buying Japanese brands and nothing else. I absolutely love my new Fusion SEL V6.
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Price to expect for new 09 Milan?
by drmurdoc
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Nov 04, 2008 (6:43 pm)
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How much under invoice can I expect to get a new 09 Milan? Can some of you post the deals you have gotten? Please be specfic to what the rebate was and what you actually paid out the door. Thanks!
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Re: Price to expect for new 09 Milan? [drmurdoc]
by waygrabow
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Nov 04, 2008 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: drmurdoc (Nov 04, 2008 6:43 pm)
Look at Edmunds for invoice pricing and rebates. Generally you can buy the car for invoice minus incentives/rebates plus a dealer handling fee without any hassle. The dealer handling can possibly be negotiated also; current incentives are excellent, especially for an 08.
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Re: Price to expect for new 09 Milan? [drmurdoc]
by akirby
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Nov 05, 2008 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: drmurdoc (Nov 04, 2008 6:43 pm)
Don't expect the same huge deals you got in the past - Ford is cutting production rather than putting tons of cash on the hood to move cars people don't want. Don't worry about the rebates when you negotiate since those come from the factory and are fixed. Somewhere between invoice and invoice +$500 should be easy. You might do below invoice (pre-rebates) if you're willing to take something the dealer hasn't been able to sell.
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Re: Price to expect for new 09 Milan? [drmurdoc]
by mtnman1
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Nov 05, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: drmurdoc (Nov 04, 2008 6:43 pm)
I just purchased a 2009 Fusion SEL V6 with the rear spoiler, moon & Tune package, rear sensing, and all weather floor mats. MSRP was $26,715 paid $24,447. Invoice was $24,443. There are various options as far as rebates. You can get $3500 cash back if you use Ford Credit, $2500 cash back and the market rate, or $1000 back and 0%. Not sure if the 0% was for a 36 month loan only. I took the $3500 and financed through Ford for 36 months. I put down $12,000 on the car and even though the rate through Ford was high my total cash output was less this way. I'm planning on re-financing at a lower rate because there is no prepayment penalty with Ford. Now granted Mercury's deals may be different.
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Re: Consumer Reports Most Reliable [mtnman1]
by scape2
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Nov 21, 2008 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Nov 04, 2008 4:15 pm)
I have come across many people who refuse to believe a Ford has any quality in it at all. I link them to the cache of sites I have and they quickly change thier minds. Its all an education/perception issue. The media has beat it into peoples heads over the last 10-15 years it is going to take time to bring people around. I own a 2006 SEL V6 loaded with every option and it has been a solid car. About 37,000 squeak free, problem free miles. 
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2010 Fusion
by scape2
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Nov 21, 2008 (3:38 pm)
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is out on the net.. Google it!
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Re: New tires! [scape2]
by thegraduate
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Nov 25, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: scape2 (Sep 22, 2008 3:17 pm)
I'm pretty impressed with Bridgestone's offerings these days. For the money, they're better than comparable Michelin products... in my opinion anyway. I'll be replacing the Michelins that are on my Accord  when they wear out (still have plenty of life left at 42k) with the Potenza G009 or G019. I have them on my old '96, and it actually handles better in the wet than my 2006!
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Re: Consumer Reports Most Reliable [scape2]
by thegraduate
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Nov 25, 2008 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: scape2 (Nov 21, 2008 3:37 pm)
With time, that perception is changing. I truly believe that Ford is the strongest of the Big Three, and has the best chance of maintaining a decent image in America of the three.
BTW Scape, I thought you'd be interested to know that my folks finally bought a new car in June to go along with their Civic. Just like the one below. They told me it was the best thing I've ever talked them into. 
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Re: 2009 headrests [pmpowell1]
by mitchflorida
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Nov 27, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: pmpowell1 (Nov 03, 2008 4:02 pm)
Your head should never be touching the headrests. It is only if you are in an accident to protect your neck from whiplash.
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