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#5043 of 5511 Re: Milan Impression [oshkosh49] by akirby Mar 15, 2008 (7:13 am)
Replying to: oshkosh49 (Mar 15, 2008 6:44 am) Just a note - the Zephyr wasn't even supposed to exist. It was rushed to market when the LS sales tanked and it was eventually killed. The MKZ that debuted for 2007 was the car that was originally planned. Of course the 3.5L should have been ready for the 2006 models anyway - it was at least 2 years behind. And Lincoln shouldn't have been in such a position with their car lineup. But they were so they had to make the best of it.   I don't think we'll see those mistakes with the current regime once they recover from all of the mistakes of the past.
#5044 of 5511 Re: Milan Impression [oshkosh49] by mz6greyghost Mar 15, 2008 (7:27 am)
Replying to: oshkosh49 (Mar 15, 2008 6:44 am) Actually, the 3.0L V6 that was in the Taurus 20 years ago was the Vulcan V6, not the newer Duratec V6. Two completely different V6 designs. The older Vulcan V6 was a two valve per cylinder, overhead valve, pushrod design. The newer Duratec 3.0L is an four valve per cylinder, double overhead cam design.   That's correct. The DT was first introduced in 2.5L form in 1993, and was offered in the Contour. The Taurus didn't get the DT until 1996, when the 3.0L debuted, replacing the 3.8L V6. The 3.0L Vulcan V6 was still considered the "base" engine, with the DT as an "option". Replies to this message: oshkosh49 (Mar 15, 2008 3:00 pm) savetheland (Mar 15, 2008 3:34 pm)
#5045 of 5511 Re: Milan Impression [mz6greyghost] by oshkosh49 Mar 15, 2008 (3:00 pm)
Replying to: mz6greyghost (Mar 15, 2008 7:27 am) I had a 1991 Ford Probe LX with the 3.0L Vulcan V6 with a 5-speed manual. It was only rated at around 140 HP. (But I had a 1986 Ford Escort just before with an 86 HP 4 cylinder. So the Probe was very quick in comparison.) Then a few years later they came out with the 2.5L Duratec V6 for the Probe GT, rated at 165 HP. I don't recall which year it was that Ford increased the size of the 2.5L Duratec to 3.0L.   Today, I own a Silver Birch Clearcoat Metallic 2006 Milan Premier with the 3.0L V6, with the Medium Light Stone two-tone leather seats, and Wales Mahogany Wood Trim Package. Very happy and satisfied 22,000 miles so far. No mechanical issues at all. Zero, None. Totally reliable.   Then you read all the Toyota Camry reviews with the continuous auto transmission problems and you realize that reality hasn't caught up with the perception.
#5046 of 5511 Re: Milan Impression [mz6greyghost] by savetheland Mar 15, 2008 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: mz6greyghost (Mar 15, 2008 7:27 am) I had ‘94 Taurus with Vulcan 3.0L V6. It is a ridiculous engine, even for ‘94 – less powerful than e.g. Toyota I4 in Camry from same model year, much less refined and consumes inappropriate amount of gas for what you get in return. 3.0L Duratec was a huge leap forward. I have it in my Sable. It is not as refined as other modern engines but is fuel efficient enough (I get 24 mpg on daily average) and it least you can drive fast. It lacks low end torque though and intake resonates unpleasantly at low rmps. There are also unpleasant vibrations at idle. Acceleration is not as good as in other cars. New version on Fusion/Milan does not have issues with idle vibration and engine sound a little bit more refined but still low end torque is not sufficient. In general this engine seems to be reliable but not fuel efficient by modern standards and low rpm torque is a real issue while driving in city.   Ford Focus with 2.3L Duratec feels like sports car compared with my Sable with 3.0L Duratec. Ford can replace 3.0L Duratec with I4 with turbo. It will make nose lighter also, takes less space under hood and easier to maintain.
#5047 of 5511 Re: I too have read [scape2] by keithm1 Mar 18, 2008 (3:49 pm)
Replying to: scape2 (Mar 08, 2008 10:09 am) Yeah, I saw the verve, a nice looking car. Perhaps a little "supercharging" will help with the horse power issue while maintaing good fuel milage.
#5048 of 5511 new fusion owner here by explorerx4 Mar 18, 2008 (3:59 pm)
sel awd, color alloy. only had it for a few days. it looked good on the lot, but looks great on the street. getting a lot of looks from drivers of other mid sizers. the awd doesn't seem to be as 'front drivey' as the focus, which is good for me because i like rwd. steering/handling is not as taut as the focus(zts), but pretty balanced. compared to the focus i traded, the headlights are way better. gas mileage won't be in the same league (duh!), but i can't tell how it will shake out, yet. i also have an explorer, but don't drive it often. the fusion still seems big, compared to the focus i was used to driving.
#5049 of 5511 Vulcan V6. by mschmal Mar 19, 2008 (7:06 am)
Typical "american car" shopper. "OH I don't want a 4 cylinder"   me: But the 2.3L I4 in the new Fusion uses modern technology to produce 160 hp which is 5 more hp than the V6 in your 94 Taurus.   Oh I know I don't want a 4 cylinder I had one back in the 80s and that car couldn't get out of its own way.   Mark Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Mar 19, 2008 4:27 pm)
#5050 of 5511 Re: Vulcan V6. [mschmal] by explorerx4 Mar 19, 2008 (4:27 pm)
Replying to: mschmal (Mar 19, 2008 7:06 am) i wanted the awd. if a 4cyl was available with it, that would have been my first choice.
#5051 of 5511 Sorry, by mschmal Mar 22, 2008 (7:23 am)
Wasn't trying to pick on you for getting the 3.0L Duratec, I was just trying to explain why Ford stuck with the OHV 3.0L Vulcan V6 for so long.   I remember when I was 14yo reading a review about the new 1986 Ford Taurus in Popular Mechanics and they were gushing about the new Vulcan V6. Times change. Ford stuck with that engine for so long because it met the needs of the Taurus customer and was basically bullet proof.   Mark
#5052 of 5511 Re: Moon roof visor [graydude1] by keithm1 Mar 25, 2008 (5:46 pm)
Replying to: graydude1 (Mar 10, 2008 1:48 pm) Sure..Go to any VIP(or other auto store)They should keep sun roof visors in stock(kind of generic fits all)I got one about 30in. wide. Definately does the trick abou t $25 or so. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Mar 26, 2008 4:34 pm)

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