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Moon roof visor by graydude1
Mar 10, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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Has anyone found an aftermarket source for a moonroof visor? I get so much pressure buffeting when mine is open that I have to close it 50%. I'm hoping a visor or airdam will help. Any suggestions?
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Milan Impression by au1994
Mar 13, 2008 (6:12 am)
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I just spent about 100 miles in a Milan Premier on a business trip. I walked away impressed. Very comfortable, plenty of power and good MPG. According to the computer I got 23 MPG in some spirited hwy driving. Car seemed to be put together very well and was holding up jusr fine to 9700 rental car miles.
 
The only negative I noticed in my 100 miles was it seemed a little noisey when accelerating, but thats pretty minor. At speed I thought the noise level was acceptable.
 
Not in the market right now, but the Fusion/Milan would warrant consideration if I was. And for the record we have an 07 Passat Wagon and an 06 Ram as out vehicles right now.
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3.5L Duratec. by mschmal
Mar 13, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Capacity is not an issue. Ford retooled Cleveland Engine Plant #1 last year then never started prodcution. They were suppose to start it up this quarter but have delayed that until forth quarter 08.
 
Mark
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Re: Milan Impression [au1994] by theman123
Mar 13, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: au1994 (Mar 13, 2008 6:12 am)

Well I'm glad to hear that you were impressed with the Milan. Question was your car a V6 or a 4 banger ? The 4 banger is know to be allot more noisier for the simple fact that it doesn't have as much horsepower as the V6 causing it to work harder. If it was the V6 the engine is really a 10 year old reworked V6. So, it's not as refined sounding as other more modern V6 engines made by other companies. Also, Ford put it in the Fusion/Milan because it's tried and true. All the quality problems are long gone. That's why the Fusion/ Milan rank so high in quality because of the old engines.
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Re: Milan Impression [au1994] by explorerx4
Mar 13, 2008 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: au1994 (Mar 13, 2008 6:12 am)

i expect to be picking up my fusion in a couple of days, so i will be able to post her soon.
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Re: Milan Impression [theman123] by au1994
Mar 14, 2008 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: theman123 (Mar 13, 2008 5:00 pm)

it was a 4 banger. Noise aside I was pleasantly surprised by the pick up.
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Re: Milan Impression [theman123] by savetheland
Mar 14, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: theman123 (Mar 13, 2008 5:00 pm)

Actually 2.3L I4 is not an old engine, it is pretty modern. It was developed in 2000s jointly by Mazda and Ford and it is darn good engine. It is not so unrefined as you described. I had it on my Ford Focus and it was blast to drive.
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Re: Milan Impression [savetheland] by theman123
Mar 14, 2008 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: savetheland (Mar 14, 2008 3:31 pm)

Thanks savetheland, I'm not dogging you or telling you off. However, I should have stated it more clearly that I was talking about the V6 not the 2.3 liter 4 banger not being very refined by modern standards. I know the 2.3 liter is a fine engine. Mazda uses it in allot of the cars. Mazda, has a turbo charged direct inject version of the 2.3 liter engine in the Mazdaspeed 3 and it's kicking out 260 HP. People and critics alike have raved about the 2.3 liter engine. As far as your Focus. The Focus community is heated that Ford dropped the 2.3 liter from the Ford Focus and going soley with the smaller more fuel efficient 2.0 liter engine.
 
However, the Duratec V6 has been around since the Taurus. It was state-of-the-art 20 years ago but it's a reliable work horse compared to modern engines. Don't get me wrong I'm not dogging the V6. I had a 1995 Ford Taurus and I loved that car dearly. When you stepped on it. The engine sounded like it was about to explode. I would get and Fusion/Milan with the V6 no questions asked. The only thing that would stop me from getting the V6 is that fact that gas might hit $4.00/gallon by the end of the summer. So, I would want a more fuel efficient 4 cylinder engine.
 
The 221 HP V6 engine was one of the biggest complaints against the Lincoln Zephyr which is now the MKZ. Critics said that the Duratec V6 is a good motor but it's not made for a luxury car. So, that should give you a good idea of how refined the motor sounds. Along with the fact that allot of other car manufactures had V6's with more power than the 221 HP Zephyr. That's why Lincoln dropped the old V6 in favor of the new 3.5 V6 for the MKZ. People love that engine and it was one of wards 10 best engines in 2006 or 2007. Along with that the MKZ sales have been up 56% year-to-date.
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Re: Milan Impression [theman123] by oshkosh49
Mar 15, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: theman123 (Mar 14, 2008 9:06 pm)

Actually, the 3.0L V6 that was in the Taurus 20 years ago was the Vulcan V6, not the newer Duratec V6. Two completely different V6 designs. The older Vulcan V6 was a two valve per cylinder, overhead valve, pushrod design. The newer Duratec 3.0L is an four valve per cylinder, double overhead cam design.
 
Yes, Ford made a couple mistakes with the Duratec V6.
 
First, they put the 203 HP version of this 3.0L into the Ford Five-Hundred (new Taurus) and the Mercury Montego (new Sable), which are larger cars than the Fusion/Milan. They had to correct that mistake by replacing the 3.0L with the 3.5L in the Taurus (old Five-Hundred) and the Sable (old Montego).
 
Second mistake, they did the same thing with Zephyr/MKZ. The Zephyr at least got the 221 HP version to begin with. But when you're competing against the Cadillac CTSs and Acura TLs of the world, it seemed like Ford didn't come fully loaded to the fight.
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Re: Milan Impression [oshkosh49] by akirby
Mar 15, 2008 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: oshkosh49 (Mar 15, 2008 6:44 am)

Just a note - the Zephyr wasn't even supposed to exist. It was rushed to market when the LS sales tanked and it was eventually killed. The MKZ that debuted for 2007 was the car that was originally planned. Of course the 3.5L should have been ready for the 2006 models anyway - it was at least 2 years behind. And Lincoln shouldn't have been in such a position with their car lineup. But they were so they had to make the best of it.
 
I don't think we'll see those mistakes with the current regime once they recover from all of the mistakes of the past.

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