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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [urnews] by microrepair
Jun 18, 2007 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: urnews (Jun 04, 2007 12:44 pm)

Wow, this forum got real quiet real fast... Did Camry win ?
 
Back on topic: I was pretty interested in the Milan possibly being my next car until I realized that ESC is NOT available. I bought a used Mercedes 4 years ago that has their version, called ESP. The MB ESP almost entirely negates the need for AWD. I have driven it on snow and ice and it is a MUST have option for me on any vehicle I buy. It is fantastic..!
 
I really like the Milan/Fusion mostly because they are derived from the Mazda6 which has gotten rave reviews from owners. I owned one of the early MX-6's (1988) with a 122 hp 4-cyl and a 5 sp. manual tranny. I kept it for 9 years (9 hard driving years!) with nothing needed beyond tires, oil, brakes, and mufflers. Well, except for the seat frame that broke after 4 months, mostly my fault! It was a great car, easily the most reliable I've ever owned and the most fun to drive too.
 
I'm hoping that heritage carries down into the Milan/Fusion and it seems that so far it has. But I have a problem with people in this forum (only a few) talking up the Fusion/Milan as SPORTS cars... And talking about the need for lots more power. First and foremost they are family sedans and if they happen to have very good handling and ride qualities along with reasonable power, that doesn't make them sports cars. Sporty sedans maybe... But far from sports car lineage...
 
 
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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [microrepair] by akirby
Jun 18, 2007 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: microrepair (Jun 18, 2007 8:27 am)

Stability control is not a substitute for AWD if you're in a low traction situation - especially if you're starting from a stop. Both can help you regain control if you're driving on slippery surfaces, but there are situations where ESC will save you and AWD won't and vice versa. One is not really a substitute for the other.
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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [akirby] by microrepair
Jun 18, 2007 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jun 18, 2007 8:43 am)

I agree if you're talking about going over rough terrain or trying to muck through 15" of snow. But for 99% of my driving, light snow (6" or less) or slushy roads, my MB with ESP, traction control, ASR, and ABS is nearly foolproof.. I've never had a problem with starting from stop in a low traction situation.
 
Others results may vary...
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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [microrepair] by urnews
Jun 18, 2007 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: microrepair (Jun 18, 2007 9:06 am)

my MB with ESP, traction control, ASR, and ABS is nearly foolproof.
 
I am acronym challenged. MB = Mercedes-Benz; ESP = Electronic Stability Program?; ABS = Anti-lock Braking System; but what does ASR stand for?
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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [microrepair] by akirby
Jun 18, 2007 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: microrepair (Jun 18, 2007 9:06 am)

What if both drive wheels are sitting on ice or stuck in mud? ESC won't help you there.
 
I'm just saying that each technology has advantages over the other in certain circumstances.
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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [urnews] by jeffyscott
Jun 18, 2007 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: urnews (Jun 18, 2007 9:17 am)

what does ASR stand for?
 
Anti-slip regulation, I believe. AKA - traction control.
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Stability control by mschmal
Jun 18, 2007 (12:03 pm)
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Provides no benefit vs traction control when driving in a straight line.
 
The difference between stability control and traction control is that the former has a yaw sensor that measures cornering forces.
 
If the registered yaw does not equal predicted yaw, then the car recognizes an oversteer/understeer event and applies the appropriate wheel's brake and/or reduces throttle to compensate.
 
Advance Trac will be on the 2009 Milan.
 
Mark.
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Re: Stability control [mschmal] by jaxs1
Jun 18, 2007 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jun 18, 2007 12:03 pm)

If there is still a Milan and a Mercury in 2009.
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Still a Mercury? by mschmal
Jun 19, 2007 (4:04 am)
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You didn't read the latest JDP Initial Quality Survey? Milan was FIRST for midsized sedan and MKZ was FIRST for premium entry sedan.
 
Nope it wasn't Toyota.
 
Mark.

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