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Re: bike comparision is flat. [mschmal] by jeffyscott
Jun 01, 2007 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jun 01, 2007 11:46 am)

I don't know whether they are all usable or not, but on a bike some combinations will give you essentially the same ratio as others. I recall from ancient times that on a typical 10 speed, it used to be you would usually have maybe 6-7 significantly different gear ratios.
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3.5L V6 in '08? by chm1chm1
Jun 03, 2007 (12:31 pm)
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Does anyone know whether a 3.5L V6 is expected for the '08 Fusion and/or '08 Milan?
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Re: 3.5L V6 in '08? [chm1chm1] by akirby
Jun 03, 2007 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: chm1chm1 (Jun 03, 2007 12:31 pm)

Definitely not for the Fusion but some claim there is a 3.5 08 Milan listed somewhere (order guide maybe?). But nothing has been confirmed yet.
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Re: 3.5L V6 in '08? [akirby] by jaxs1
Jun 03, 2007 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jun 03, 2007 6:47 pm)

More likely to be in none or both, not just the Milan.
Unless it gets the same mpg as the standard V6 or the other V6 was to be completely dropped and scrapped to simplify their engine lineup, there is little reason for it. They would want buyers to upgrade to the Taurus and Sable or MKZ instead.
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Re: 3.5L V6 in '08? [jaxs1] by akirby
Jun 04, 2007 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Jun 03, 2007 6:54 pm)

The 500 3.0L gets 19/26 under the 2008 tests. The Taurus 3.5L gets 18/28. I think you'll see the same thing for the Fusion and Milan when they get it. The 3.0 will be replaced by the 3.5 across the lineup but it will take a few years to reach that much plant capacity.
 
It is possible the Milan would get the 3.5L because the volume would be much lower than the Fusion and the Edge/MKX and MkZ are taking most of the existing engine plant capacity right now.
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AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion by aladdinsane
Jun 04, 2007 (7:15 am)
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Hi all...
 
While many may disagree with what I'm about to say I still have a go here at mentioning that I think Ford would gain even more sales with its Fusion/Milan duo if they offered AWD, or at least traction control, with their base 4 cylinder engine model lineup. The Sonata offers ESC/traction control throughout its ENTIRE line I believe, and this Hyundai is selling quite well.
 
Oh well, just a thought to ponder in this thread/forum...
 
Peace!<- --
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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [aladdinsane] by akirby
Jun 04, 2007 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: aladdinsane (Jun 04, 2007 7:15 am)

May sales - Sonata 12K (50% fleet), Fusion 14K (20% fleet)
 
I agree it would be nice if they offered it but I don't think it necessarily translates to a big increase in sales.
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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [aladdinsane] by urnews
Jun 04, 2007 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: aladdinsane (Jun 04, 2007 7:15 am)

While many may disagree with what I'm about to say I still have a go here at mentioning that I think Ford would gain even more sales with its Fusion/Milan duo if they offered AWD, or at least traction control, with their base 4 cylinder engine model lineup.
 
Aladdinsane,
 
I doubt if offering the AWD option, about $2,000 extra, in the I4 configuration would increase sales all that much. Most of the people buying the I4s are interested in economy and/or a lower price. The AWD option delivers neither.
 
Electronic Stability Control will eventually be mandatory and probably lessen the demand for AWD. We have a 2007 SEL AWD Fusion ($27,105 MSRP) and are very disappointed with our 14.8 mpg in-city mileage. The revised EPA estimate for this power train is 17 mpg city and 24 mpg highway. That is a detriment to sales given the rising cost of gasoline.
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Re: AWD with 4 cylinder Fusion [aladdinsane] by scape2
Jun 05, 2007 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: aladdinsane (Jun 04, 2007 7:15 am)

I agree, Ford needs to mix up its AWD offerings. However, maybe the 2.3 is just not strong enough to pull the AWD maybe? Ford needs to drop in the 2.5 and beef it up to about 175 HP.. Then were talking ..
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Remember, ESC is not all the same. by mschmal
Jun 06, 2007 (12:00 pm)
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Consumer reports had a brief article about comparing ESC systems in their 07 annual auto guide. They liked Advance Trac in the Explorer. They said that the ESC Hyunidai uses needs more work.
 
Mark.

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