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Wheel Lacquer by thebigfoist
Apr 12, 2007 (7:12 am)
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Does anyone know of a good wheel lacquer to match my Ford Fusion rims? With nice weather hopefully approaching soon I am looking to repair a few scratches I obtained over the long winter.
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Re: Wheel Lacquer [thebigfoist] by scape2
Apr 13, 2007 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: thebigfoist (Apr 12, 2007 7:12 am)

I took a Mothers polishing ball and Mothers wheel cleaner/polish to my Fusion wheels on our last sunny day. Wow! what a difference. In the first few months of owning the car I did a big no, no. Took my car through a car wash. the was put small scratches on my wheels. The polishing ball took out I would say at least 80 percent of the scratches. Wheels look just about new..
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Comparison of Milan to Fusion by chm1chm1
May 28, 2007 (5:33 pm)
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Newbie here. As a long-time Japanese car owner and driver, I was pleasantly surprised to learn of the very positive reviews that many reputable sources have given the Fusion & Milan. First question: The two models seem pretty similar, with just a few differences between them. Therefore, what criteria would I use to decide which of the two would be more appropriate for me and my driving habits? Second question: Does anyone know (or can explain) why Consumer Reports says consumer satisfaction ratings for the Milan & Fusion are only average to slightly above average, while consumer reviews in Edmunds.com, CarAndDriver.com and cars.com paint a very different picture? These consumer reviews are very favorable, even in comparison to those of the Camry and Accord. Thanks.
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Re: Comparison of Milan to Fusion [chm1chm1] by akirby
May 28, 2007 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: chm1chm1 (May 28, 2007 5:33 pm)

Some say the Milan is a bit quieter than the Fusion. Other than that it's just styling and equipment packages.
 
As for Consumer Reports - you have to take all of their statistics with a grain of salt because they only survey subscribers so it's not exactly a scientific sample.
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Re: 6-Speed "Low" Gear Selection [jeffyscott] by driverdm
May 28, 2007 (9:42 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 12, 2007 5:27 am)

"The truth is, with all these fancy transmissions that makers are coming out with (auto stick,auto shift ect) The truth of the matter is 95% of drivers use D, R and P the most... "
 
Truth is, it doesn't matter what is used. It doesn't matter what is logical. It doesn't matter if it is completely superflous and ridiculous. All that matters it that it is an advantage to be exploited by the competition and that some customers are viewing the current D-L as inferior to the manu-shift, even though they won't use it. This is a business situation that the domestics have continually screwed up on. You don't tell the public what makes sense, the public tells you their nonense and you make it happen. That is how you stay in business. Is there a reason for an eight speed tranny, or sedans with 300+ horse? Logically and statistacally there is not. But in a business, the logical and statistical matter very little.
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Re: Comparison of Milan to Fusion [akirby] by jeffyscott
May 29, 2007 (4:20 am)
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Replying to: akirby (May 28, 2007 7:07 pm)

As for Consumer Reports - you have to take all of their statistics with a grain of salt because they only survey subscribers so it's not exactly a scientific sample.
 
This is true and the ratings given by self-selected samples on websites, like this one, are certainly not statistically valid, either.
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Re: 6-Speed "Low" Gear Selection [driverdm] by jeffyscott
May 29, 2007 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: driverdm (May 28, 2007 9:42 pm)

I was quoting someone else there, I think Ford is foolish to not put the manually selectable transmission in the Fusion. Especially if the difference in cost is $50 as a comparison of Mazda6 to Fusion pricing implies.
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Manumatics by mschmal
May 29, 2007 (11:22 am)
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I have Nissans and Fords at my lot. Just about every fifth test drive in a Nissan the customer puts the trans into manual mode on the test drive and wonders why the cvt doesn't adjust.
 
I have to go into a whole long speal about what the manumatic mode is, etc.
 
The universal response is "why would anyone want that"
 
To date, I have yet to be told by a customer that they were less likely to purchase a Ford because of the lack of a manumatic.
 
I have a 2007 Fusion SE black on black 5 speed manual trans on my lot and its collecting dust.
 
Mark.
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Re: Manumatics [mschmal] by akirby
May 29, 2007 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (May 29, 2007 11:22 am)

That's because the small number of drivers who want one already know it doesn't have one and would never show up in the first place.
 
It's not so much about actual sales - it's more about the image that gets portrayed, especially in comparison tests.
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Re: Manumatics [mschmal] by dino001
May 29, 2007 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (May 29, 2007 11:22 am)

You are probably correct - for a proper price difference people would take anything that is not essential to their well-being, or what they perceive it to be. Just a few years ago a side-impact airbag or ESC were considered by most as unnecessary gadgets that were making a family car too expensive. Today everybody has them standard or available for a decent price - surely not for goodness of their hearts.
 
Manumatic autos vs. non-manumatics are like 30-speed bikes vs. 12- or even 16-speeds. Both will take you wherever you want to and comfort is similar. There is no reason an average cycylist would ever need 30 speeds. And people know it, so for a while an 16-speed will sell OK.
 
Yet - if the price difference is none and enough of competitors sell 30 speeds, the time may come 16-speed will die off or market will split into segments with very cheap 12-speeds and nice 30-speeds. Does Fusion want to stay with the latter one or is content to mop as a bottom-feeder - that is a proper question.

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