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#4796 of 5819 Re: 140,000+ sold in 2006 [mschmal] by exalteddragon1

Feb 23, 2007 (5:04 pm)

Replying to: mschmal (Feb 22, 2007 4:05 pm)
Im not talking about the 160K people who bought the fusion, I'm talking about the 400K+ who bought either the Camry or Accord.
 
221hp is enough for the Fusion and Milan, yes. It is because the rest of the car is just so good that 221hp was not bad enough for it loose too many sales. It seems like its a great car for ford.
 
One other thing, I think at least as important as adding in the 3.5L, is adding in a manumatic transmission. I think many cutomers left the fusion for that, too. I would have.
 
Also, congradulation to ford for making a car with such high sales numbers in this tough segment.

#4797 of 5819 Re: 140,000+ sold in 2006 [exalteddragon1] by jeffyscott

Feb 24, 2007 (5:29 am)

Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Feb 23, 2007 5:04 pm)
Im not talking about the 160K people who bought the fusion, I'm talking about the 400K+ who bought either the Camry or Accord.
 
Actually I think that figure would be more like 600K total for Camry + Accord...but didn't about 75% of them take the 4 cylinder?

#4798 of 5819 Re: 140,000+ sold in 2006 [jeffyscott] by akirby

Feb 24, 2007 (10:05 am)

Replying to: jeffyscott (Feb 24, 2007 5:29 am)
80% 4 cylinders.

#4799 of 5819 Manumatic? by mschmal

Feb 24, 2007 (12:03 pm)

This never made sense to me. The only manumatics I ever drove are completely pointless because there is way to much delay between when you pull the lever and when the car shifts.
 
The better question is does the transmission act in such a way that it does what you would want it to do if it were a manual.
 
Mark.

#4800 of 5819 Re: Manumatic? [mschmal] by jeffyscott

Feb 24, 2007 (1:01 pm)

Replying to: mschmal (Feb 24, 2007 12:03 pm)
I have two uses for this function. One is if I am preparing to pass, I may want to downshift by 1 or 2 gears in advance. The other use would be on a long downhill stretch. It is nice to have access to any gear, without having to have PRND4321 or PRND54321 for the shifter.
 
The price of the manually shiftable 5 speed automatic in the Mazda6 is only $50 more than 5 speed automtic without this feature in the Fusion.

#4801 of 5819 Re: Manumatic? [mschmal] by dino001

Feb 24, 2007 (1:04 pm)

Replying to: mschmal (Feb 24, 2007 12:03 pm)
It is pointless if it's poorly programed like the one you drove. It can be programed much better with smaller delays. Point of manumatic is to keep it on the same gear in congested (but moving) traffic, when you go between 10 and 40 mph back and forth and preventing early upshifts before and delayed downshifts at acceleration. I always hated that in autos - they would upshift on a hint of easing throttle and then dealy downshift following shifting two gears down at once. With manumatic I could keep it on second gear for as long as I need - once the congestion is cleared than let the computer take care of the rest.

#4802 of 5819 Re: 140,000+ sold in 2006 [exalteddragon1] by scape2

Feb 24, 2007 (2:56 pm)

Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Feb 23, 2007 5:04 pm)
Because McDonalds sell more burgers than Wendys are they a better value? Nope..
 
If Ford were smart they would offer 3 engine choices for the Fusion/Milan. Make the 3.5 a Fusion GT of sorts. Offer a 6speed manual or autoshift of some kind. Offer more standard features in this trim level and put on some body styling queues to distinguish it from other Fusions/Milans on the road. This more HP thing has got to stop sometime. What are we going to have a 500HP or 1000 HP family sedan? God, I hope not..

#4803 of 5819 Re: 140,000+ sold in 2006 [scape2] by jeffyscott

Feb 24, 2007 (3:11 pm)

Replying to: scape2 (Feb 24, 2007 2:56 pm)
Develop the 500 HP family sedan. Build about 5 of them equipped with the 500 HP engine, the rest will have normal 4 and 6 cyl engines.
 
Then advertise the new 500 HP whatever...
starting at $17,995
($1,000,000,000 as shown)
 
Something like the Nissan Altima ads, only more so.

#4804 of 5819 - by dudleyr

Feb 26, 2007 (8:21 am)

The scary thing is - that would probably sell more cars. Just so people could be associated with the "fastest sedan".

#4805 of 5819 If Ford had that kidn of 3.5L capacity, by mschmal

Feb 26, 2007 (4:42 pm)

They wouldn't be bleeding red.
 
Incidently, I have a Fusion with 2.3L and Auto and that trans comes the closest of any Automatic that I have driven to acting the way I want it. It will rev up to 5k rmp before up shifting if I am accelerating. Also, I almost feel like to downshifts 2 quickly. If you dip into the throttle quickly it will downshift right away.
 
I still prefer my 07 Mustang V6 with manual though.
 
Mark.

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