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Mercury Milan, Ford Fusion, Sedan
#3092 of 5819 Re: Style [fsmmcsi] -- Does Ford Still Have Quality Issues? [agb] [mschmal]
Mar 03, 2006 (5:19 am)
Getting a bit off topic here, but I am curious as to where the Ford 3.8L fits in. This is also a 200 HP engine. Is this a variation of the Vulcan or the Duratec or something entirely different?
#3093 of 5819 Might be a good idea
Mar 03, 2006 (5:23 am)
When you have something to say that really doesn't have anything to do with the subject of a message to which you are replying, it would be a good idea if you either create a new thread (that option is available when you hit Reply) or wipe out the subject altogether and make it something more relevant to your thoughts.
When titles do not reflect the point of the message, it does get confusing to most members - even to your hosts!!
#3094 of 5819 Re: February Fusion/Milan sales [navigator89]
Mar 03, 2006 (6:05 am)
"9143 Fusions and 2371 Milans.
Funny, the Taurus is still Ford's best selling car..."
And the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis are still selling better than the new 500/Montego.
That should scare Ford.
#3095 of 5819 Who reads the title line, anyway :-)
Mar 03, 2006 (6:14 am)
I guess I never really pay attention to what it says on the title line . But thanks for the tip regarding the ability to change it, even for a reply.
#3096 of 5819 Re: Who reads the title line, anyway :-) [jeffyscott]
Mar 03, 2006 (7:44 am)
You are welcome! You can also just use the post box at the bottom of any page to start a new thread without ever hitting Reply.
And yeah, I realize that the format here is very different from most boards most folks are familiar with -- we all understand there can be some confusion and it's all good ...
#3097 of 5819 JeffyScott
Mar 03, 2006 (7:53 am)
"Getting a bit off topic here, but I am curious as to where the Ford 3.8L fits in. This is also a 200 HP engine. Is this a variation of the Vulcan or the Duratec or something entirely different?"
Totally different from all the above. The 3.8L, which recently grew to 3.9L, and a cousin of it the 4.2L are another engine family which will die off in the next few years (about 2 years left). They are torquey units, but it's an older OHV design. The 3.8L suffered from head gasket issues in the mid 90's which was later rectified. Other than that, they were mostly bulletproof except it's just outdated and no longer competitive.
#3098 of 5819 Re: JeffyScott [ANT14]
Mar 03, 2006 (8:16 am)
I thought the 3.8L engine died with the 2004 Mustang. What offers that engine today?
#3099 of 5819 Re: February Fusion/Milan sales [scootertrash]
Mar 03, 2006 (8:28 am)
That should scare Ford.
Not at all. The Taurus is mostly sold to fleets and rental-car agencies. I bet less than 10% are sold to the general public. I'm sure the Fusion is out-selling the Taurus to Joe Customer, but not to Avis or Hertz.
The Crown Victoria is the ONLY rear-drive full-size sedan that's used by police officers here (upstate NY). About 90% of the State Troopers I've seen drive CV's (with a few Tahoes and late-model Mustangs and Camaros). The local Sheriff's and Police Departments all have CV's. In fact, the Police Dept. next to my office just had 4 brand-new CV's delivered to the garage last week, waiting for light bars and decals. Municipal agencies also use them as company vehicles as well.
I'm sure the Five-Hundred is out-selling the CV to Joe Consumer as well, but law-enforcement agencies are probably the only reason why Ford still produces the CV. Cops love the V8 RWD full-size sedan.
#3100 of 5819 Re: Style [fsmmcsi] -- Does Ford Still Have Quality Issues? [agb] [mschmal] [jeffyscott]
Mar 03, 2006 (11:03 am)
If you are referring to the 3.8L "Essex" engine that was previously offered in the pre 1996 Taurus and was also standard in the Windstar and V6 Mustang, I forgot it on purpose.
That engine is basically TOTAL garbage compared to what else is available. That engine alot was responsible for massive amounts of problems with the head gasket. Supposedly these problems are fixed.
This engine still hobble on in the Freestar and is one of the reasons why the Freestar never had a chance. Why would anyone pay $30 to drive a van that had a motor that sounded like something from a 1970 Lawnboy when they could buy a Honda?