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Mercury Milan, Ford Fusion, Sedan
Jun 27, 2005 (3:39 pm)
Pricing was released for the Mercury Milan, with $18,995 for the 4 cylinder and $21,995 for the 6 cylinder. Those prices are only slightly above the Fusion, and it still keeps the prices well below other midsize sedans.
Ford says 0-60 acceleration times for the Fusion/Milan will be 8.5 seconds. Looking at the previous midsize sedan comparison test...
Accord - 7.5
Altima - 7.3
Galant - 7.3
Camry - 7.6
6 - 7.8
Malibu - 8.3
2006 Sonata - above 8.0????
Fusion/Milan - 24-valve DOHC V6, 3.0L, 221hp
Accord - 24-valve SOHC V6, 3.0L, 240hp
Altima - 24-valve DOHC V6, 3.5L, 245hp
Galant - 24-valve SOHC V6, 3.8L, 230hp
Malibu - 12-valve OHV V6, 3.5L, 200hp
Camry - 24-valve DOHC V6, 3.3L, 225hp
6 - 24-valve DOHC V6, 3.0L, 220hp
Sonata - 24-valve DOHC, 3.3L, 235hp
Ford Fusion $17,995 / $21,275
Mecrury Milan $18,995/ $21,995
Hyundai Sonata $18,495 / $21,495
Honda Accord $18,510 / $24,465
Chevrolet Malibu $19,825 / $21,890
Toyota Camry $19,735 / $23,070
Nissan Altima $19,880 / $23,880
Mazda 6 $19,555/ $23,855
Mitsubishi Galant $19,595/ $23,095
Judging by all this, I'd say the Fusion/Milan have a great future mainly because of thier low price and feaures. Otherwise, their performance is only adequate, definetly not class leading. The cars itself are also smaller than most of the competition, which makes me wonder how roomy the interior is. Thank god for the 6 speed transmission and sporty handling. The Milan and Fusion also need to offer nav systems like their competitors do. Hopefully this feature will debut soon, along with the AWD version.
If only Ford improved the engines on the Fusion and Five Hundred, I can see them becoming class leaders.
Jun 27, 2005 (3:48 pm)
Why doesn't Ford offer auto-manuals or manu-matics on their vehicles. Seeing as how the Fusion is supposed to be sporty, they could have given it a manu-matic like the Mazda 6. Ford doesn't really offer and auto-manuals on it's cars except for the Lincoln LS and the Premium brands (Volvo, Land Rover.)
Jun 27, 2005 (3:49 pm)
Factory installed nav systems are on the way OUT. Please, why would anyone pay 2k for something their almost free cell phone can do just as well?
#1424 of 5819 Standard ABS?
Jun 27, 2005 (3:54 pm)
One more issue with ABS, the system Ford uses on their trucks is a very expensive system comparatively. You might notice that GM at one point was throwing standard ABS on everything but this was a cheap 2 channel system that ran on vacumn power rather than computer power.
#1425 of 5819 Re: Automanuals [jcat707]
Jun 27, 2005 (4:42 pm)
To me the Automanuals, are a gimmick. Every one I've tried has not impressed me one bit. They don't shift immediately, all I've sampled won't hold a gear if you floor it and will automatically up shift at a certain rpm. Now Audi's DSG gear box is the real deal and would be worth having, other than that give me my clutch. I doubt Ford will lose any sales over not having the automanual feature.
#1426 of 5819 Re: Automanuals [dieselone]
Jun 27, 2005 (5:17 pm)
We have had a Jetta with tiptronic for about a month, so have had very limited experience with the "automanual". Our transmission also has a "sport mode" in addition to the normal "D" drive mode. I have only driven it a couple of times, but so far I would say that I am more likely to use the sport mode than the tiptronic. The sport mode tends to shift more like I would with a manual.
I can think of a couple situations where the tiptronic might be useful or convenient. One being dowshifting on a long steep decline and the other being to downshift in advance (as I might do with a manual) when you are planning to pass on a 2 lane highway.
Also with a 6-speed the automatic, it probably looks nicer having the tiptronic instead of P-R-N-D-5-4-3-2-1 on the transmission selector. What does Ford do about all those gears with the selector on their 6 speed auto?
#1427 of 5819 Re: Automanuals [dieselone]
Jun 27, 2005 (5:32 pm)
I agree that Ford most likely won't lose any sales over the lack of an automanual feature. The Camcords don't offer one and look how well those sell. I was just wondering why Ford doesn't offer them in more vehicles.
#1428 of 5819 Re: Automanuals [dieselone]
Jun 27, 2005 (7:57 pm)
I own a 2004 Mazda6 and I can't tell you how much I love my manu-matic. It has become such a love of mine that it is my ultimate drawback to the Fusion/Milan. The lack of that feature makes me look at other cars or just wait for the new Mazda6. I lived in Boston for some time, making a stick impratical. Traffic usually involved a 1 to 3 hour wait. The control that a manu-shift gives you and the extra excitment is really what makes it such a good option. It makes the car more than just an appliance like a Camry. I think Ford made a mistake by not including it. At least I can count on Mazda, the are in it for "the relentless pursuit of fun".
#1429 of 5819 Re: but [johnclineii] Side Air Bags
Jun 27, 2005 (8:05 pm)
Most domestically built autos use the same Air Bag supplier.