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Acura TSX, Sedan
#4752 of 5064 Re: post tsunami? [wbarmore]
Mar 25, 2011 (12:41 pm)
In the end, what you pay for the car doesn't matter. You're going to be happy with it. I bought my wife's 2010 TSX Tech on the last day of Cash 4 Clunkers back in August 2009.
Now those of you who follow the TSX know that while it is a fantastic car, for some reason sells for invoice or very close to invoice (maybe $500 above in a small market with no competition).
When I bought our TSX, the 2010s had only been out for 2 weeks, there were no 2009 leftovers (I had to have a TSX TECH w/ Black Interior), & it was the only Acura that qualified for the Cash 4 Clunkers rebate. Only a handful of Acura dealers were even participating in the program.
I've been an edmunds TH poster for a number of years (before 2001). I consider myself both an auto enthusiast & educated consumer. The selling price for our 2010 TSX was just $1000 under MSRP.
I have to tell you that 1 year, 7 months, & 32,000 miles later that I couldn't be happier with the car. In the end that's what matters.
#4753 of 5064 Re: post tsunami? [m6user]
Mar 25, 2011 (2:49 pm)
Your post was not condescending in the least...you just pointed out some simple facts of life & the poster didn't like what he heard. But yes, it's a two way street with supply & demand...period! Your advice on waiting till things get back to normal was sound advice actually. His question about his '08 TSX made me feel like he wanted to make a "killing" on his trade but I could be wrong. But, "could he get a better price" just doesn't sound right either!
Folks, Japan had a "natural disaster" so lets not think only about the "$" here...people have been killed and others have had their lives permanently changed...let's keep this in mind instead of "wanting to get the best deal"...o k? Time to act like caring human beings here!!
#4754 of 5064 Re: post tsunami? [wbarmore]
Mar 25, 2011 (5:13 pm)
Tried to help with some common sense. Failed. Sorry.
#4755 of 5064 Re: 2011 TSX base model, no option added. [irvineca]
Mar 25, 2011 (10:41 pm)
Typo, I did the negotiation on the phone. I didn't do the test drive and didn't even look at the car in person.
There are not many Acura dealers in Orange county and I feel most of these dealers who would offer that price. That's the reason I didn't post them. I'm more than happy to give the names of dealers by email.
#4756 of 5064 Re: post tsunami? [m6user]
Mar 26, 2011 (1:01 am)
Well, so much for common sense. I just drove in from San Antonio after leasing an Acura for another three years. I was given the option of leasing a 2011 TSX with tech for well under $300 OTD after credit for returning my '08 lease. My current payments were $374 on an '08 without tech. Maybe I was paying too much.
Part of the reason I was given the above price was that I turned in my '08 TSX lease to them which they valued at more than $1600 as a trade-in. The Austin dealer said they couldn't possibly do better than $456 on a 2010 and that my lease return had absolutely no value because of the "unknowns of the situation in Japan." Tell me that's not profiteering.
Cost of living is higher in San Antonio than Austin, but does that justify a premium of over 5K over the three-year lease period for a 2010 as opposed to what I was quoted for a 2011? I think not. The San Antonio salesman said that they were having to look at the realities of what the Japanese disaster was going to mean for them, but he just shook his head when I told him about the previous quote.
I ended up leaving with a TL with tech for under $350 OTD after trade-in allowance for a car with an MSRP pushing 39K. I love my TSX and really wanted another one, but I couldn't pass up that deal on a lease. There's a lot to read about opinions on the 2011 TL, but for $347 with nothing down, I was willing to give it a try.
The above is the kind of help I'm looking for on the Edmunds forums--not a sophomoric lesson in economics. There's so much to learn on Edmunds about what dealers know that we don't. I'm thankful for that. One of the things I learned is that some dealers will use a human tragedy to unreasonably, IMO, increase their profit margin. I hope this post was helpful to some. For those it wasn't--Whatever. BTW, the San Antonio dealer was Nathan Gunn Acura.
#4757 of 5064 Re: post tsunami? [sandman_6472]
Mar 26, 2011 (1:14 am)
Wasn't trying to make a "killing," at all. I just was asking for help on how to get a fair deal. Read my above posts. I think both the salesman and I were very happy with where we ended up. If there's a way to post a private message, let me know, or actually, I think he would be happy to have it posted here. I'd be happy to give you his contact info and you can ask him yourself. I think both of us were happy with the process and neither felt like the other was being taken advantage of. I'd like to think this is not out of the ordinary in the business of car leasing and purchasing.
#4758 of 5064 Re: 2011 TSX base model, no option added. [irvineca]
Mar 26, 2011 (4:00 am)
That's actually part of being a member here on TH. This way someone in your area can try and get the same deal you did. It is part of the research process & the power of edmunds. You CAN post the dealership name, but CANNOT post the name of the salesperson you dealt with.
#4759 of 5064 Re: post tsunami? [wbarmore]
Mar 26, 2011 (4:03 am)
Nice deal. You'll be happy with the TL. Did you get it with the TECH pkg? That's a fantastic price on a car with MSRP in the upper $30K range.
That's also the nice thing about leasing. Sometimes the deal on a more expensive car is just too good to pass up, especially for 3 years. As long as you stay within the mileage parameters, then leasing is smart.
#4760 of 5064 Re: post tsunami? [wbarmore]
Mar 26, 2011 (7:20 am)
--not a sophomoric lesson in economics
Evidenced by your sophomoric question "is this legit", I admit I gave a fairly sophomoric answer. It's blatantly obvious that Acura dealers immediatley asking full MSRP because of the disaster is ridiculous. Based on that, I thought I was giving a helpful answer. It wasn't what you were looking for and I said I was sorry. You don't have to beat it into the ground unless you wish to carry a chip on your shoulder.
Mar 26, 2011 (8:04 am)
Let's just move on...
New members have to get used to us, and regular members have to remember that not everyone has been here, forever..
People come to Edmunds because we are known for being friendly!
So, congrats on the new TSX! And, nyccarguy? Being happy with your deal, does not make it a good one... lol..