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#4458 of 5064 2010 base TSX automatic in North Carolina
Jan 29, 2010 (8:40 am)
1- Thanks! I want to say thank you to all of you who have gone on before me, and posted their experiences and advice. It was extremely helpful to me! I hope this post helps someone, too! Seriously, as a community, ya'll helped me save thousands of dollars....
2- Price I paid: I just bought a 2010 base TSX automatic, 26,700 sale price, 3% NC HUT tax (801), 472 fees, for an OTD cost at 29793. (No true sales tax- NC has a 'highway use tax'). I bought the car from my local dealer, who matched the price from another more distant dealer. No options/accessories (apparently, not all regions/dealers are equipping their cars with standard protection packages- this was a misconception I had from reading earlier posts). Make sure you know what accessories come with the car- these little options can make a difference.
I had to politely refuse a whole bunch of protection packages and warranties and maintenance plans... and yes, the finance guy is still in a back room where you have to face them alone! But he was nice and polite and not pushy.
100% Financing thru Honda at 2.9%; 502/month payment x 60 months. Hopefully it won't take that long to pay off, but heck- that's a better interest rate than my school loans and home mortgage- so maybe it will....
3- Offers: I did end up with three different offers of under 27000 from different dealers. Two other dealers fell out of the competition (28370, and "that would be a negative profit deal that we cannot match" when I asked for offers around/under 27000). I shopped 6 different dealers from 15 to 100 miles away.
I also had sign and drive lease offers of 373 and 419/month for base and navi models, respectively (12k/yr, 36 months, residual % and value of 61%, $18,373.20 and $58%, $19,267.60, respectively. Money factor of .00189 for AHFC super preferred credit tier. After my last experience with leasing,and this experience with buyin, I will probably never lease again.
4- Opinion/Advice: I think the car could be had for a little bit less money than that- but not a whole lot less. I'm guessing maybe 26200 to 26500 is about as low as would be possible, at least around here, at this time. The whole "end of the month" thing seems to be very helpful. Check out Carmax and you'll see that lightly used TSX's cost about the same amount... or MORE!
Edmunds.com and truecar.com were both very helpful. Cars.com and Car and Driver's website were also helpful to me.
I would recommend by starting with extensive internet research, and then go to your local dealer and check out the car, to see if you like it. (DO NOT buy it the first time you visit!) I thought I wanted a used TSX from 2007, but I found out I didn't really fit in the car. Then I thought I wanted a used TL, but I test drove it and it's handling is softer than my 2007 V6 Honda Accord, so yuck. (The TL-Sports models are probably better). So then I decided to test drive a new TSX, and it's NICE! Responsive, tight handling, fun to drive. Awesome electronics features and beautiful interior. Is it perfect? No- less horsepower than my Accord and a definitely a little bit slower in straight line acceleration. The TSX is still pretty quick,though (and how many drag races was I winning in my 244 HP V6 Accord sedan, anyway?), and it will get better mileage. However, premium fuel is recommended for TSX, so that part is a bit of a wash.
If you like the car, then go to Acura.com's website and click through and ask for offers from several different dealers. After they send you "offers" or inquiries, then send them back your specific requests (ie, buy vs lease, navi or w/o navi, V4 or I4), and ask them how close they can get to a specific price (this implies that someone else is quoting you that). Make sure to ask for itemized quotes- find out what (if any) accessories are installed and make sure they aren't sneaking in stupid dealer charges. Keep emails relatively short and to the point. If the dealer/sales person is a bit obtuse (ie- starts asking about monthly payments, etc) then simply ask a single question in a single email.
5- Other costs: My auto insurance went up by 10 dollars a month. I did refuse GAP coverage- it's a rip-off through the dealer at 5-6 hundred, and it seems like you can only get it from whomever you get the loan through (my insurance co. does not offer GAP insurance- my credit union offers it for 135$- but only if you finance the loan thru them). Used Acura's retain their value so well, that there's not a long/huge upside down period, and I don't have too much exposure. (Take a look at Carmax or certified used Acura prices, for example).
well, it's a long post, but hopefully helpful to someone out there!
#4459 of 5064 Re: 2010 base TSX automatic in North Carolina [95tarheel]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jan 30, 2010 (8:16 am)
2- Price I paid: I just bought a 2010 base TSX automatic, 26,700 sale price, 3% NC HUT tax (801), 472 fees, for an OTD cost at 29793.
#4460 of 5064 Re: 2010 base TSX automatic in North Carolina [kyfdx]
Jan 30, 2010 (9:33 am)
whoops, I screwed up the one sentence anyone really cares about, good grief.
my sincere apologies. I just double checked everything, OTD at 27973...... that should compute more accurately. Pretty good deal, no?
#4461 of 5064 Re: 2010 base TSX automatic in North Carolina [95tarheel]
Jan 31, 2010 (8:18 am)
That's $23 more than I negotiated. And I considered it a very good deal especially because the dealer is literally 1.1 miles down the road from me.
However, in the end I was sold on the environmental protection package. I'm obsessed with my paint and it will allow me to go without a car cover (which can also be damaging) and it covers the interior too. Figured with Taupe leather, stains would occur easily from normal use and to know they'll replace anything that gets screwed up in the next 5 years makes me pretty happy. I declined everything else because my insurance will take care of it. Which reminds me, everyone should consider checking with their insurance company to see exactly what is covered so you can save a little dough when you see the F&I guy.
And you know what? Even if the "protective coating" doesn't work, they still have to replace anything that gets screwed up so either way it works out.
In the end I financed $700 more but I only see it as spending $425 more because I don't have to buy the car cover for $275.
#4462 of 5064 Re: 2010 base TSX automatic in North Carolina [tannis]
Jan 31, 2010 (8:44 am)
Sounds like you got a good deal, too! I think there's a couple of folks who beat us, but not many. Speaking of protecting the paint, I'm wondering if I should have gotten the splash guards- I wonder how well they work. I guess I could go back and get them installed.... Now, if only all this darn snow/ice will melt so I can take it out for some more driving!
#4463 of 5064 Base 4i automatic in Las Vegas
Jan 31, 2010 (5:31 pm)
Signed off yesterday on a grigio/taupe 2010 4i base. $27,165 including wheel locks and body side moulding. Dealer transfer from out of state. Total OTD $29,717 (I'm jealous of those who live in states with low sales tax). Financing for 60 at 2.9%.
I started by emailing a handful of dealers in California with grigio models on their lots. Within half an hour I had several responses so I was able to use that in Vegas for negotiation. They came back with an offer for $26,665 for a white/parchment on the lot, but I'm fine with paying a bit extra to be happy with the exact color combination I wanted. And it was absolutely a great experience at Las Vegas Acura!
#4464 of 5064 TSX 6-speed w/tech: $30k OTD at Rosenthal
Feb 01, 2010 (7:11 pm)
Okay I lied... it was $30,040 OTD. I also added the body molding and the splash guards, so it was about $30,400 when all said and done, did not trade-in. My building has a garage w/ small spaces so the molding will likely save many dings and such. Backup camera will help with this as well. I should mention, too, that I live in Arlington, so only paid 3% sales tax, even though purchased in MD. Great buying experience, no nonsense and very intelligent and friendly salesman. 2.9% for 60 months. I have student loans that are higher than that, and I will put this debt on the bottom of the list to be repaid.
Did feel a bit lowballed when I tried to trade in... ended up doing my own deal with that car. It's staying in the family. The trade offer was about 50% of blue book, lower than even the rough trade number. There was a substantial mechanical defect emerging, though, with the ABS so that may explain this outcome.
Got it in Grigio gray... loved the blue shade to death but it was only available in auto and I'm not a fan of the slushbox. The gearbox on the manual is very effortless; the car drives very well.
The nav redirected me on the way home based on traffic... how much time will this thing save me driving in DC traffic?
All in all I'm quite happy... my first new car in 8 years. I tend to drive my cars a long time, hope this one lives up to my expectations going forward.
#4465 of 5064 2010 Acura TSX Base,6-Speed Manual
Feb 05, 2010 (8:54 am)
Can anyone tell me what would be the ideal price for a 2010 Acura TSX, 6-Speed Manual, Non-Tech Package in and around Chicago area ?
#4466 of 5064 Re: 2010 Acura TSX Base,6-Speed Manual [salad_82]
Feb 05, 2010 (12:15 pm)
My experience may or may not be helpful to you. Last September, my car was nearing the end of its useful life. I wanted a new Acura, either a TSX or TL. I wasn't sure which, and wasn't sure I liked the design of the TL.
I've driven a manual trans since 1983, and tried to find a 6-speed Acura. A suburban dealer had a new TSX, 6-speed, black. He told me that demand for the 6-speed is strong, few are available, and he didn't think that a buyer should expect much of a discount. At that time, there were no TL's in Chicago with a manual.
His TSX was quickly sold. It had the tech package.
I bought a different brand of car, but yesterday, I went to autotrader.com and searched for TSX's within 100 miles of downtown Chicago with manual transmission, just for the heck of it, and none came up.
I wish you the best of luck, but I believe that if you're seeking a TSX with a manual trans, without the tech package, and especially if you have a strong preference for a certain color, it won't be an easy task to find the car and get a good deal. Maybe the situation will improve as time goes on and more cars are delivered to dealer lots.
In 1996, the last time I bought a new car, I test drove an Acura CL coupe with a manual, loved it, ordered a black one, but the dealer misled me, told me it was on the way, when it wasn't. At that time, same as last October, I needed a car and had to buy another brand. Despite the fact that Acura owners with manual transmissions love them, Acura just doesn't seem to build many of them.
#4467 of 5064 Re: 2010 Acura TSX Base,6-Speed Manual [gkg680]
Feb 05, 2010 (5:13 pm)
Generally speaking, if you want a 6 speed TSX, you have to order it. Dealers prefer to stock cars that appeal to the majority of buyers (i.e. with automatic transmissions). A good way to get a good price is to use one of the online services that negotiate a low price for you.