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Acura TSX Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: 2009 tsx base lease question [jdr10] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 01, 2009 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: jdr10 (Dec 31, 2008 8:34 am)

First.... don't feel bad about making poor lease decisions.. Almost everyone makes mistakes the first few times.. at least..
 
But... to answer a few of your questions...
 
You did pretty well on the selling price, it seems.. But, the $595 + $895 for the alarm and remote start? You'd have to want these pretty bad for this to make good sense on a lease. Since neither of those things are residualized, you pay the full amount over the 36 months of the lease.. That added around $45/mo. to your lease cost. Probably your biggest mistake.
 
There are lots of reasons for not putting money down on a lease... but, it doesn't really cost you any more, assuming you don't lose the car to accident or theft early in the lease... But, an easy way to get the real monthly cost of the lease, is to divide your upfront payment, minus the first payment, by the term.
 
$4973 - $320 = $4653 / 36mo. = $130/mo. approx..
 
$320/mo. + $130/mo. = $450/mo..
 
That seems pretty high.. but, if you deducted the $45/mo. for the alarm/remote start, you'd be at $405/mo. with nothing upfront but first payment...
 
Not a great price, but decent for a $30K car..
 
Also, to answer your other question.. the "rent charge" is the finance portion of the lease payment... The interest, for lack of a better term..
(Depreciation + Finance charge + Tax) / term = lease payment.
 
Hope that helps,
kyfdx
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Re: [mittbb] by cpabuck
Jan 02, 2009 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: mittbb (Dec 23, 2008 3:13 pm)

Can you please tell me what dealership or what city you got the deal in for $500 below invoice? Here in Florida, they're not budging below $28K for the base w/o Tech.
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best prices for TSX w/o Tech in Southwest Florida by cpabuck
Jan 02, 2009 (1:38 pm)
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Hello,
Can anyone tell me if they've gotten a good deal on a TSX w/o Tech in Southwest Florida? I'm having a tough time getting the dealers to budge below $28K. Thanks.
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2009 TSX Offer - No tech package by dwr3
Jan 02, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Got the dealer to this point... Is it a good deal? '09 TSX base, automatic and no extras for 27,720 Plus 835 local taxes, 389 other fees, 69 title fees = 29,013 total cash price delivered.
 
I'm thinking I should still be able to drive it home for 27,000 (plus tax/doc/title).
 
Thoughts please?
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Just bought this in So Cal by drtravel
Jan 03, 2009 (9:02 am)
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Leased a base TSX with no add-ons
 
MSRP was $29,720
Invoice was $27,381
Paid $26,777 ($604 below invoice)
 
All I paid at closing was the acquisition fee, 1st month's payment plus doc/title fees.
 
For a 36 month lease 15K miles per year (using mf of 0.00263 and residual of 62%) that came out to $350.84 plus tax.
 
Acura's (actually Honda's) fiscal year ends midnight 1/5/09. Happy shopping!
 
Note: 6 other dealers would not match this price, one would but he had added accessories.
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Re: Just bought this in So Cal [drtravel] by darknightx13
Jan 03, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Jan 03, 2009 9:02 am)

drtravel,
I'm unclear how you're coming to this monthly price. I come up with $379.35/month when I use your numbers.
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Re: Just bought this in So Cal [darknightx13] by drtravel
Jan 03, 2009 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: darknightx13 (Jan 03, 2009 1:32 pm)

Use the following formula to calculate a lease payment:
(Cap Cost – Residual Value) / Term = Depreciation
(Cap Cost + Residual Value) X Money Factor = Interest
Depreciation + Interest = Base Monthly Payment
 
Residual value is 0.62 X 29720 = 18426.40
 
(26777-18426.40)/36 = 231.96
(26777+18426.40) X 0.00263 = 118.89
 
231.96 + 118.89 = 350.85 (plus tax)
 
Those are the exact same numbers that the dealer came up with.
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Re: Just bought this in So Cal [drtravel] by darknightx13
Jan 03, 2009 (11:06 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Jan 03, 2009 2:14 pm)

I didn't realize the tax wasn't included when you made your initial post. With taxes (at least where I am in NY) it would be an additional 28.51 per month. This is basically the price I wanted my dealer to come to plus I wanted some additional iteams "thrown in".
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Re: Just bought this in So Cal [darknightx13] by drtravel
Jan 04, 2009 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: darknightx13 (Jan 03, 2009 11:06 pm)

It's best to quote lease prices as base payment plus taxes so those in other states can compare apples to apples. Tax rates vary across the country - some have zero! Also some states charge the sales tax upfront while others spread it out over the monthly payments. And it's also a bad idea to shop based on a monthly payment. Always negotiate the best sales price - the lease payment will be whatever it will be. Advertised leases tend to be for 10K (even seen some at 7.5K) miles per year and require a large capital cost reduction. I just run my own numbers for 15K with no capital cost reduction.
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Re: 2009 TSX Offer - No tech package [dwr3] by drtivol
Jan 04, 2009 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: dwr3 (Jan 02, 2009 6:35 pm)

you should be able to do better than that.
 
I got $27,800 with tech package (before tax, title, lic, and destination).

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