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Acura TSX, Sedan
#1967 of 5064 Re: 2005 TSX in SF Bay Area [asleepy]
Sep 26, 2005 (9:58 pm)
My decision to buy the TSX involved several factors. Actually I will need to replace another car soon, so I will be revisiting the performance sedan category again, which means the TL and 325i will be on my list (I may add the IS 250/350). The G35 just didn't excite me as much as the Acura or BMW.
I went with the TSX first because I wanted a car for daily around-town driving, and a car my wife and kids could drive. So gas mileage, nimble handling, and sporty size were key factors. The TSX has those qualities and is well built. Dealer pricing was favorable but probably could get a better deal percentagewise on a TL.
For the second car, I will want it to have a larger feel, especially for long distance travel, and a six cylinder engine. I decided to wait on this car because I would like to see if Acura will make an AWD version of the TL and maybe soften the ride a bit.. With regard to the newly redesigned 325i, I really like the car but was a little leary about buying one in its first year of production. So it was logical to wait and see how the 3 Series evolves and dealer pricing improves. Maybe next year, I will be going through this decision process again.
Lets us know what you decide.
#1968 of 5064 Re: 2005 TSX in SF Bay Area [peaches63]
Sep 27, 2005 (3:56 am)
Great minds think alike, I also test-drove a TSX on Labor Day, in Chicago. I've driven Saabs since 1983, because they're a good size car for heavy traffic and cramped city living. However, I need a change, and Saab is now a GM car.
My accountant is a smart guy, and he swears by his Acuras. Moreover, all my friends say that Japanese cars are extremely durable and reliable. I also like the front-wheel drive, especially in winter, even though it's hard on the tires. In addition, Saab service in Chicago is a problem, and I like the idea of being able to take a TSX to any Honda dealer for routine maintenance.
I am also torn between trying to pick up a 2005 now, or waiting for a 2006 with several enhancements. Please do post your thoughts when you buy. I find these forums invaluable, both in learning about the car, and also regarding which dealers are trustworthy.
#1969 of 5064 doc fee part of the shell game?
Sep 27, 2005 (5:42 am)
I'm looking to buy non-navi TSX in NC. I've been given a couple of quotes in the ballpark of $600 over invoice + TTL + $350 doc fee. I'm just getting into this so the haggling on the price hasn't begun but I've seen other posts where the doc fee may be as low as
$50. That's a far cry from $350. Is the doc fee something that they can massage similar to the purchase price of the car (i.e., we'll come down $100 on the doc fee but make it up on the price or vice versa). Also, what are your thoughts regarding $600 over invoice. In other parts of the country it seems people are getting better deals but anyone in this region with comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
#1970 of 5064 Re: TL or TSX [johnny420]
Sep 27, 2005 (6:15 am)
Hey, thanks for the reply, your logic makes sense. I'm not too concerned with the rankings either, just wanted some feedback since I always thought Acura was above average in all aspects.
My TSX is doing great, it's about 3.5 weeks old now. Black on Black, Navi, 6 speed manual. I took it easy for the first 600 miles and now my engine purrs; the transmission seems great and I've had no other issues mechanically. I've never had a manual car before and practiced on others and am getting use to my TSX now. It's so fun to drive though, zips in and out of corners, handling is pretty confident, and the amenities are great. It's just hard to keep Black clean, have to hand wash it myself every weekend which I kind of enjoy. It's a new experience to have to look for the furthest, safest parking spot wherever I go.
#1971 of 5064 Re: TL or TSX [mhasan]
Sep 27, 2005 (8:39 am)
Sweet. Congrats on the car, and congrats on making the CORRECT choice by selecting the 6 MT The TSX and the 6 MT is a match made in heaven.
The TSX in black looks great, IMO, and yes it's a bit hard to keep clean, but what the hey. I'm like you, I enjoy detailing my car.
You picked a great car to learn the manual tranny with. You'll like it more and more as you drive it. Yours is pretty rare, with the 6 MT and the navi. You'll find the suspension becomes even more compliant in coming months.
Look at remote parking as an opportunity for exercise
Enjoy your car!
#1972 of 5064 Re: doc fee part of the shell game? [spiveygb]
Sep 27, 2005 (3:39 pm)
The doc fee varies across the country from a low of $45 in CA to as high as $600 in some place in FL. All of it is negotiable.The doc fee seems to be regionalized, for example all VA side of DC dealers charge $249-299 for a doc fee while it's a pretty even $100 on the MD side.
$600 over invoice is a pretty good deal - that should be just under $26K. The main thing to look for is the price before the required fees of TTL. What ever is left for 05s might be had for a good price. I've read that official 06 debut is Nov 9.
#1973 of 5064 employee pricing
Sep 28, 2005 (7:24 am)
I test drove both transmissions yesterday. While at the dealership the internet salesman mentioned that a couple of weeks ago they offered employee pricing on all their tsx's because they thought the '06's were due in at the beginning of Oct. I joked that he should have called me and I would have been ready to buy. He mentioned that there was maybe something that could still be done because they had received 3 more tsx's and that the manager's were pretty aggressive with moving units off the lot. My question is does anyone have any idea as to what employee pricing would be for this vehicle? What is the lowest reasonable offer I could open with without him thinking I was ridiculous? And finally, is this just a tactic on his part to move to the negotiating process? Thanks.
#1974 of 5064 Re: employee pricing [spiveygb]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Sep 28, 2005 (7:42 am)
Yes.... just a negotiating tactic..
Look up invoice here on Edmunds... start there, and hope to take it home within $500 of that amount...
Just my $0.02
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#1975 of 5064 Re: employee pricing [kyfdx]
Sep 28, 2005 (9:16 am)
does the $500 over invoice target include the infamous doc fee?
#1976 of 5064 Re: employee pricing [spiveygb]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Sep 28, 2005 (9:20 am)
Always consider a doc fee part of the price... So, $25,300 plus a $499 doc fee is really $25,800.....
So, $500 over invoice is everything except state mandated fees and sales taxes... Let them break it down however they want..