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Cadillac STS, Cadillac STS-V, Sedan
#718 of 1325 $1,500 off . . .
Aug 30, 2004 (11:11 am)
"$1,500 Offer* for non-GM owners toward purchase of a new 2005 Cadillac STS.
*Offer valid toward purchase of any new and unused eligible 2005 Cadillac STS. Not available with employee discounts. Only one conquest offer may be applied per eligible transaction. Conquest and loyalty offers cannot be combined. Must show proof of current non-GM vehicle registration and take delivery by 09/07/04. See dealer for details." - from the Caddy web site
Same for a Lease.
Owner of a non-GM vehicle . . .
Aug 30, 2004 (11:17 am)
I have seen 17 / 26 posted in C+D and R&T for the RWD V8.
I still see no official mention of EPA estimates on Caddy's web site.
Anyone seen a window sticker for a V8? I understand they are starting to arrive at dealers . . .
Still waiting to see one in 3D . . .
#720 of 1325 V6 EPA 17 / 24???
Aug 31, 2004 (3:41 am)
Well, looking at pictures of a V6 STS on eBay - mentioned in another thread – I am immediately struck by the EPA rating of 17 / 24.
For the V6.
Car and Driver and Road and Track both reported (mfr. Est.) EPA 17 / 26 - for the V8!!
Has anyone seen a window sticker for a V8? What’s the bad news?
Disappointed . . .
#721 of 1325 Gas mileage
Aug 31, 2004 (5:33 am)
Since the rating for an RWD V8 SRX is 15/21, I wouldn't be optimistic about the STS's mileage. Also, the real-world mileage reported in the various car magazines' tests of the STS have been pretty low. Considering that the cars are arriving in dealerships, it is amazing but perhaps not surprising that Cadillac is slow in getting the numbers out. I also wonder about the various rear axle ratios being offerred, which is unusual. One would think that the mileage would be different with different ratios.
#722 of 1325 Re: gone [bigdaddycoats]
Sep 04, 2004 (4:24 pm)
Bad news! Drove a V8 and it screamed. Problem is my golf clubs would not fit in the trunk horizontally. They did fit vertically. I have been an STS owner for over 10 yrs. Guess I'll have to look at the S mercedes or the 300C for the performance and space I need/want. Didn't see much difference in the STS and CTS side by side. Sorry Cadillac, but you screwed up!
#723 of 1325 Re: gone [seville]
Sep 04, 2004 (6:21 pm)
S-Class - A lot more money for equal performance.
300C - Can't match the STS athleticism. Heck, the V8/Magnaride SRX is more athletic, even with the added ride height.
Glad Cadillac's got their priorities straight - hauling ass over hauling golf clubs. That's why Buick exists....
Sep 05, 2004 (7:31 am)
The STS has an unbelievably small trunk for its size; I think this will be a problem for many buyers.
#725 of 1325 Re: gone [seville]
Sep 05, 2004 (8:09 am)
"Sorry Cadillac, but you screed up!"
Why, because its got a small trunk?
#726 of 1325 Re: gone [eaton53]
Sep 05, 2004 (4:47 pm)
Let me start by saying that I own a 300C. My previous car was a 96 STS. I am still a huge cadillac fan and I want to see the STS succeed. I chose a 300C over the Cadillac mainly because I didn't feel the Cadillac was worth the 20000 more and I preferred the styling of the 300C. The thing that strikes me is a lot of people say that the Cadillac is more "athletic" than the 300C (which it is). It may run through the slalom a little quicker but how does that apply to real world driving scenarios? How many people ever get to experience slalom driving on a day to day basis? The one thing I do know is that if an STS and a 300C are together at a stop light, the 300C is probably going to give the STS all it can handle and for 20000 less. If I owned the Cadillac I would be a little upset at that. I really do want the STS to succeed I just wish it had better sprint numbers, as that will be the situation where it will be tested most often. I am honestly a little disappointed at the performance numbers for the STS. For those people who say the cars shouldn't be compared I disagree. If they were not meant to be compared then nobody would be trying to match them head to head. Has anyone ever compared a Camaro to a Ferarri...no! Why because they are in totally different classes. For people to want to make the comparison something must overlap. This is just my .02 FWIW.
#727 of 1325 I've driven the 300C
Sep 06, 2004 (8:10 am)
It's fine for a drag race. In real world hard cornering, the front tires squeal and it loses its composure. I've driven a lot of sport sedans - the 300C is not a sports sedan. It's a fast luxury cruiser. If you do a lot of driving on the interstate, it has to be a top choice.
A V8/Magnaride SRX (which I have also driven) is confidence inspring on any road, be it straight or twisty. The STS should be even better, given its lower center of gravity.
The new Caddys have really got it nailed when it comes to the ride/handing compromise.