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#352 of 1325 300 hp by eaton53 Feb 23, 2004 (8:25 pm)
Is pretty minimal for this class. Also, the STS will be available with AWD... unusual even for these type of vehicles. And Magnaride.
#353 of 1325 LS can't even start to compete with the CTS by rayainsw Feb 24, 2004 (4:12 am)
Drove the first 3.6L CTS as soon as it arrived at my local dealer. I bought an LS Sport. For several reasons. Sounds like competition to me.   I expect that the new STS will be priced substantially higher than the LS.   Cheers, - Ray Viva la competition - improving the breed . . .
#354 of 1325 eaton53 by rctennis3811 Feb 24, 2004 (3:45 pm)
300hp minimal for this class?? Sure when put up against the V8s, but I'm talking about the V6 base engine. The STS will only make around 255HP. Plus, to compete with the V8s, Honda is probably going to add a V8 or a hybrid V6 (the latter one is more likely). Plus, it's going to have AWD optional too.
#355 of 1325 by ateixeira Feb 24, 2004 (6:29 pm)
Maybe - Autoweek just clarified that the NSX replacement will probably not be a hybrid, even though they'd hinted it would.   We can't be so sure about the RL.   -juice
#356 of 1325 Well by eaton53 Feb 25, 2004 (4:18 am)
It is going to be compared to the V8's if they don't have one. If they do have a V8 it had better bring more than 300hp.
#357 of 1325 by rctennis3811 Feb 25, 2004 (6:37 am)
True true.. But I doubt anyone these days would make a new car V8 have 300HP.
#358 of 1325 by 1487 Feb 25, 2004 (4:33 pm)
The new RL will not measure up to the heavy hitters. It will be the only FWD based AWD car in the segment other than the A6. Besides that V8s do count for something in spite of Honda's arrogance. Why do you think they added a V8 to the A6 three years ago? You need the V8 on this level even if your V6 offers a lot of power. Besides, if the RL's engine is like most Honda high powered V6s it is going come up short in torque.
#359 of 1325 by theo2709 Feb 25, 2004 (7:07 pm)
The new RL sounds like it will compete more with the Deville and S80 than the STS and other RWD V8 competitors.
#360 of 1325 Flagship? by bobbrown1 Mar 02, 2004 (7:07 pm)
I just stopped by my Cadillac dealer Saturday to see if they had any price info on the new STS. He said not yet, but expected it in April after the NY Auto Show Intro. He said he could take orders at that time, with first deliveries possibly as soon as June. An interesting point he made is that Cadillac Division informed dealers that they are re aligning the cars where CTS is entry level, STS is mid-level, and Deville the flagship, at least until an even more upscale line appears a few years down the road (Fleetwood?) He points out that STS will be available with a V6, but not Deville. He also claims Mr. Lutz wants Cadillac to emulate Mercedes where their biggest car is always the flagship car, excluding specialty cars like the SL600 or XLR.
#361 of 1325 That news... by bretaa Mar 04, 2004 (7:14 am)
... is interesting, and somewhat at odds from what I've read in the automotive press. It's often been reported that the STS will become the "New Cadillac" flagship while they aren't 100% sure what to do with the DeVille long term, for now keeping it FWD and, along with the Escalade, focus more on "traditional" American buyers and shift the rest of the line to the "international" A&S. Certainly, if they want the DeVille to be the S-Class of their line, FWD on the older platform won't cut it, but I'm sure (hope?) they know that.   - Bret

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