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Cadillac STS/STS-V: What's New for 2007?

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2008 V6 by rayainsw
Jun 27, 2007 (2:10 pm)
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I see a 'short take' ( 1 page ) on the 2008 V6 STS in the C+D that arrived today...
- Ray
Sounds worth a test drive......
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2008 pricing by rayainsw
Jun 29, 2007 (3:03 am)
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I see Edmunds has the 2008 V6 base at $42,390...
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MX0 \ 6L80 trans upgrade for 2008 STS-v??? by rayainsw
Jul 10, 2007 (8:36 am)
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I have read through the 2008 list of changes elsewhere – and I am surprised to see nothing about any upgrades to the MX0 \ 6L80’s shift behavior.
 
I currently drive a 2007 Corvette Coupe. On the 2008 Corvette Order Guide site GM \ Chevy states: “Improved paddle shift automatic with quicker shift on (MX0) automatic transmission”.
 
Has anyone seen or heard anything about similar improvements for the 2008 STS-v? Since it uses a version of the same 6L80, I’d hope that there would be comparable improvements in the Caddy Flagship. . . ???
 
Thanks,
- Ray
Considering a Sedan to “go with” the Corvette . . .
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Re: MX0 \ 6L80 trans upgrade for 2008 STS-v??? [rayainsw] by box986
Jul 10, 2007 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jul 10, 2007 8:36 am)

Yes, Ray. Similar improvements were made on the STSv.
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Re: MX0 \ 6L80 trans upgrade for 2008 STS-v??? [box986] by rayainsw
Jul 10, 2007 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: box986 (Jul 10, 2007 9:16 am)

"Yes, Ray. Similar improvements were made on the STSv. "
 
Interesting.
Source?
[ Edit: Details? ]
Seems very curious [ to me ] that GM \ Caddy make no mention of this - that I have seen...
Thanks,
- Ray
Sufficienly interested to schedule a test drive...
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V6 STS ( my thoughts prior to driving 1 ) by rayainsw
Jul 16, 2007 (7:35 am)
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I “requested” way back in 2005 and \ or 2006 that Caddy revamp their option and equipment availability policy – to allow configuration of what I’d call an STS GT. Less ( mandatory ) luxury and convenience options required before one could order the PCZ “Performance Handling Package” with the NorthStar V8.
 
It appears that, with the introduction of the substantially upgraded V6 version of the 2008 STS, Caddy has in fact decided to allow something quite similar to what I had in mind back then.
 
Essentially, I was looking for the highest \ best performance & handling equipment, without pushing MSRP well over $60K – for ‘stuff’ I really did not care that much about. ( Such as the Navigation system, Bose sound system, HIDs, rear heated seats, and a few other items. )
 
This V6, with 300+ HP and a flat TQ curve, implying good general drivability in addition to that rather high specific output, mated to GM’s 6L50 6 speed automatic ( a version of the trans. in my Corvette ) intrigues me. Particularly with the imminent release of the CTS. ( Still waiting to see pricing. )
 
** IF ** the dynamics of the 2008 V6 STS are actually much as described in the previews I have read, and the quality ( mechanically & cosmetically ) is improved – in addition to the revamped interior & exterior. ( The 4 previews I have read so far, including 1 here on Edmunds, have been quite positive. )
 
And ** IF ** the acceleration feel and handling feel of the V6 is truly as good as initial reviews, based on pre-production examples, is as good as reported. And the NVH control is refined.
 
And ** IF ** the [ real world ] fuel mileage is reasonable.
 
Etc.
 
THEN, I see this as an advance toward Caddy making the STS a sales success. And building a base of [ very ] satisfied Caddy customers. I see potential to sell more V6 STSs than V8s, as has always been true – and these advancements sound like they’ll make the STS V6 something that will impress.
 
If the V6 STS sells in larger numbers, and the upcoming CTS ( same motor available ) also becomes a sales success, these revenue stream enhancements ** MAY ** allow Caddy to invest in the other aspects that would push the Brand higher. If GM so chooses.
 
I have asked the Internet Manager at my closest dealer to notify me when 2008 V6 STSs start arriving. I plan to test drive one, equipped as close as possible to how I’d buy one: 1SC, PDQ & PCZ. MSRP just under $55K. ( Where previously a V8 with PCZ had to be a 1SG, and had an MSRP well over $60K. A 2007 1SG – V8 w/Sunroof and premium paint currently on my Dealer’s lot lists at $62,940. That is without a HUD. And with no PCZ. )
 
In addition to the larger ( Summer only ) tires & wider wheels & Brembo brakes, a 2008 STS V6 so equipped would even include a HUD – something previously only available bundled with (K59) Adaptive Cruise Control, and priced at something over $2,000. And again only available on the V8 with 1SG. I have had a HUD on past vehicles and have one on my Corvette – and appreciate the usefulness.
 
It would include the Navigation system, heated AND VENTILATED front seats – and even a heated steering wheel. For a much more reasonable actual transaction cost. IMHO. And at a ‘penalty’ ( vs the V8 version ) of only 0.2 seconds in 0 – 60 acceleration. A difference I suspect very, very few could discern. IMHO.
 
I see all this as Caddy making progress – movement in what I consider “The Right Direction”.
Cheers,
- Ray
Willing to be convinced that this is a satisfying sedan to drive . . .
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Re: how do you [graphicguy] by nvbanker
Aug 02, 2007 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Oct 30, 2006 1:02 pm)

My one pet peeve with the navi in the Caddy is the fact it won't let you use a lot of the functions once the car gets above 6 MPH. Whereas, in the BMW, all the funcions can be used while driving.
 
I agree with you - but so far, the Germans are the only ones I have tried that will let you use the Nav while in motion - imagine that, they like to drive 200kph too! Go figure!
 
The lawyers in America and Japan don't trust us to operate a function and drive at the same time. Irritating.
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Re: Curious..... [bosshogg] by formulalarry
Oct 09, 2007 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: bosshogg (Jul 12, 2005 10:20 am)

Boss,
Do you have the code for the 2008 CTS Nav. System?
Thanks in advance.
Larry
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STS Navigation by mikes11
Feb 19, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Does anyone have any short cuts or tips on how to use and program the navigation system on the 2007 STS? I am having a very had time getting it programed and the manual does not help. Thanks Mike
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Re: STS Navigation [mikes11] by rayainsw
Feb 19, 2008 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: mikes11 (Feb 19, 2008 6:55 am)

". . the manual does not help. "
Are you using the seperate STS Nav System manual?
The 2006 version runs to about 158 pages.
(( You can find a .pdf copy on mygmlink. ))
- Ray
Good luck....

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