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STS front bucket seats by horns1976
Aug 19, 2006 (8:12 am)
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Edmunds says that one of the cons of the STS is the front bucket seats. Too hard or something like that. I would appreciate any comments regarding the comfort of the front seats. I am considering an STS and cannot abide hard seats a la Lexus, Honda, etc. Thanks.
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So Long - and happy motoring! by rayainsw
Oct 02, 2006 (3:53 am)
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Since I have posted here with some regularity, I thought I’d post a ( likely ) final message . . . At least for quite a while.
 
After driving several STS V8s, including the second STS-v delivered locally, I decided to order a 2007 Corvette Coupe. For many reasons.
 
Details of my test drive impressions are posted on the Corvette forums here on Edmunds. I in no way mean to suggest that the Corvette is a competitor to the STS in any traditional sense.
 
I happen right now to be in a situation where a back seat is no longer an absolute requirement for me. And I have decided to take the opportunity to buy a corvette. With many of the comfort & convenience items that I have found attractive on the STS. ( Again, details of my option choices, and why, are posted in the Corvette Forums. ) Thus equipped, I see the Corvette as more GT than “pure sports car” – but others will disagree.
 
I see the C6, as of MY 2006 ( with the addition of the A6 trans. ) as a world class GT car and a world class bargain.
 
Not cheap, mind you. The MSRP of the one I ordered is over $10,000 more than my 2003 LS. And the actual transaction price is higher by even more . . .
 
Carpe C6.
 
Cheers y’all.
- Ray
2007 Corvette on order & counting the days . . .
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Re: STS front bucket seats [horns1976] by graphicguy
Oct 04, 2006 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: horns1976 (Aug 19, 2006 8:12 am)

I'm driving my Mother's '05 STS. My "normal car" is a BMW 3 series.
 
I find the Caddy's seats more comfortable. They don't have the bolstering of the BMW's seats, but that's both a blessing and a curse. The Caddy's seats seem to have more/better padding material. Plus, the leather in the Caddy seems to be much softer than that in the BMW.
 
In fast driving, on lots of switchbacks, I'll take the BMW's seats. In everyday, around town driving, I'll take the Caddy's seats. On a long highway trip? Caddy.....hands down.
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how do you by exalteddragon1
Oct 09, 2006 (10:59 am)
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find the materials on the STS, are they up to BMW spec, according to you at least?
 
Also, what STS is it? I was wondering if anyone has driven the new 6 speed STS and an STS4 of any years, just to find out how the AWD system is.
 
you know, there is not as big a difference between a fully loaded (with every option) STS4 and a STSV
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STS I drove one by dmathews3
Oct 21, 2006 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Oct 09, 2006 10:59 am)

Got a STS V6 lux for an overnight drive. Sticker at just under $53K. Love the nav. setup and Bose. I think it rides great. Firm, but not harsh just like my 99 STS did. The V6 really surprised me as I wondered going in if I would be happy with it. Plenty of power and all wheel drive too. Will be buying it. My price is 46,300 minus the 2145 for the free Nav. that Caddy is offering until the end of the year. Black on Black with sunroof
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Re: STS I drove one [dmathews3] by exalteddragon1
Oct 24, 2006 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Oct 21, 2006 3:38 am)

That's a cool color combo,
 
Did you get the wood interrior? I know some interriors have wood on the dash, but not the steering wheel and shifter
 
You know, if they just lower the price a bit, they would not have to offer all these rebates... we will see i guess.
 
You got a good deal, though. I would expect to pay that much for a V6 Nav AWD. Let us know how its doing!
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Re: STS I drove one [exalteddragon1] by dmathews3
Oct 24, 2006 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Oct 24, 2006 9:27 am)

Took it back on Sat. morning after keeping it overnight and my sales guy was off for the day. We went back Sunday and saw the exact same STS except in the Red. Wife loved it as we have a Colorado 4 X 4 crewcab that is black so she and I agreed should get something different. The red is a premium paint $$$ so I didn't suggest it at the time. Yes both the black and the red have the wood on the dash, steering wheel, and shifter. It really looks sharp. Picked it up last night and have 34 whole miles on it. Funny thing is the black had the same 9 miles on it when I took it home and 99 when I bought it back Sat. Salesman also gave me a Caddy coat to go with the car. I'm GM retired so got it at GMS and $2145 rebate for the nav. and $1000 retired bonus.
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Re: STS I drove one [dmathews3] by exalteddragon1
Oct 27, 2006 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Oct 24, 2006 2:20 pm)

Are you saying that GM let you test drive the car for a whole day, and then you could take it back, and just switch for a different model? THATS SO AWESOME!
 
One of the few incentive programs, that I thought was really worth anything was that 'drive for a day' program, because it didn't really lower the value of the car, they didn't offer you a discount, just a prolonged test drive.
 
Anywhay, more GM dealers should offer the kind of service you had to there customers, that would help with sales and image.
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Re: STS I drove one [exalteddragon1] by dmathews3
Oct 27, 2006 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Oct 27, 2006 9:37 am)

GM had nothing to do with the overnight drive. Capitol Cadillac in Lansing is a first rate dealer and this was the salesmans call. Dropped it off on a Sat. morning and since my salesman wasn't in that day gave it to the sales manager. All he said was how did you like it. No pressure to buy or anything. Called the salesman Monday morning and told him we decided not to buy that car. He said no problem. That is when I said we decided we like the exact same STS except in the Red. I would come in after work and see what the price was and if we would buy or lease. Got there that afternoon and he had a red one sitting there all detailed and ready to go if we still wanted it. Gave him my GMS #, $1K certificate for being a GM retired person and we figured out the price. Through in the fabric protection, paint protection, and a Caddy jacket. Walked out with a new car and a big smile on my face.
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Re: how do you [exalteddragon1] by graphicguy
Oct 30, 2006 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Oct 09, 2006 10:59 am)

Might be a little late in answering your question....
 
But, build quality in both the BMW and the Caddy are very good. I'm trying to split time in both cars. I don't want my mother's STS to sit much...and I don't want to put a pile of miles on my BMW.
 
BMW outhandles the Caddy. But the Caddy feels faster. The more I drive the Caddy, the more I'm getting used to it's driving characteristics. It's a very fluid drive.
 
It's an AWD V8 STS. When she bought it, she got all the bells and whistles. I'd bet she never even used the Nav or the surround sound. All the radio presets were on "talk radio". Stereo is very good in the STS....probably one of the best factory systems I've ever heard. My one pet peeve with the navi in the Caddy is the fact it won't let you use a lot of the functions once the car gets above 6 MPH. Whereas, in the BMW, all the funcions can be used while driving.
 
Seats are more comfy in the Caddy. It has some nice bolsters, but they aren't too hard. My BMW's "comfort access" (keyless start, personalization settings, etc) gets crossed up on occasion (doors won't unlock unless I use the fob, instead of me just touching the door handle...mirros fold in when I don't want them to). The remote start and keyless start/personliaztion on the Caddy works flawlessly, so far. I'm betting I find the remote start usefull this winter to warm up the car when it gets real cold.
 
MPG is mediocre in the Caddy. I'm getting about 16-17 MPG in city driving. It gets about 27-28 MPG on the hgiway, though. My BMW's city MPG is better, but the Caddy's highway MPG is better.
 
It's really too bad that Cadillac doesn't do a better job of marketing. This is the first American brand I've liked in quite a few years.
 
They're really two different cars...the STS and the BMW, in two different classes. The BMW is a sports sedan, first and foremost. I think the STS has some sportiness tuned into it, but it's job is a luxury car. I don't know what my mother paid for the Caddy, but I'd bet is was about $10K more than I paid for the BMW. The Caddy is bigger all the way around over the 330i. Neither has even a hint of a squeak or rattle. Both are very nice cars.

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